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To: bigbob
A good article. It seems to me we win by avoiding kinetic action in the Seattle CHOP/CHAZ sitution. Let Trump jawbone the mayor and governor on Twitter, threaten to send in troops, etc but don’t do it. That would just backfire as it’s clear the level of non-compliance with law enforcement would result in injuries on both sides and likely death. They will maximize the opportunity for martyrdom and that could seal Trump’s fate if another “Kent State” situation occurred.

I reluctantly agree. I mean (and I'm perhaps harnessing my inner Bolton here) I'd like nothing better than to see the Marines rush in and just crush these useless mouth-breathing snowflakes to restore order. I'd also like to see looters actually getting shot as I value private property more than the low-life miscreants that would seek to steal and destroy it value their own lives. In essence, I'd like to see this insurgency totally crushed so badly that nobody ever again wants to try and turn the US into the USSR. Because that is what they want to do.

Caveat - when my father and my college aged brother sat the dinner table in May, 1970, arguing about Kent State, I took my father's side. In essence, "you don't throw GD rocks at GD people with GD guns!". (Dad was infantry, WW2, he cussed a lot).

1,147 posted on 06/18/2020 9:27:03 AM PDT by meyer (WWG1WGA, MAGA! Derps vs. Patriots, choose your side.)
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To: meyer

Your dad was a good man


1,148 posted on 06/18/2020 9:29:44 AM PDT by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her. Merry Christmas! In God We Trust!)
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To: meyer

You don’t! I agree fully and our Dads would have got along well - but the difference today is the near zero level of compliance. In 1970, even in a “revolution”, the vast majority of people knew what was right and wrong and that’s why the situation didn’t turn into a fullscale bloodbath.

Look at things now. The problem in Seattle is letting them in in the first place - abandoning a police station, are you kidding me? THAT was the time to turn these fools around but of course our PC culture and weakling “leaders” wouldn’t permit that, so we end up trying to pick up a turd by the clean end.

A buddy who is a retired Chicago cop sent me a video the other day of a traffic stop, where the female passenger refused to give her name. Eventually the driver got abusing and physical and both were forcibly pulled out of the car, and in the ruckus the female predictably started screaming “I can’t breathe!” and hyperventilating. Then the male started complaining of various pains so in the end both were transported by ambulance to the ER and then to jail. But it was a good example of what I mean by noncompliance with police - when a 90 pound female wants to fight and resist, how are cops going to get her out of a car?

CHAZ/CHOP would have infinitely more places to hide and resist, lots of weapons and who knows what devlish traps they’ve rigged? Anyone who thinks they’ll start cooperating with police is on drugs. What can the cops do with this situation they created? Gas ‘em? They’d all get charged with felonies if they did anything more aggressive than ask nicely...(although I want the active denial heat-ray machines to be turned loose).

I don’t know how it will end but I do know it wasn’t Trumps fault it started and it’s not his job to suffer unjust blame for ending it by force.


1,174 posted on 06/18/2020 11:27:00 AM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan)
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