Okay, I'm in an altered state of mind at the mo, so ill rant on your question, Jiminy Cricket. This may be a whole nother writing style and no time for editing....beware.

Your post brings up an interesting topic that I've been working on for a while in my brain. Here's what I got so far, with your added info thrown in. Keep in mind this is a more macro approach to the question.

The derp plan was to unite the arab nations into a Caliphate, and thereby the entirety of Islam with a prophesied leader. This Caliphate would eventually absorb Europe by infiltration, not invasion. This slow creep attack began even before Obama, but was highly escalated during the magic negro's horror show. It was part of the sixteen year plan, but I digress.

At some point, infiltration melds with invasion if necessary, but less likely due to previously laid Derp/Islamic groundwork. In this way, the derp state and islam become one. From there, it would be only a matter of time before the takeover of the United States would be complete and, goodnight nurse.

The last holdout would be Russia. Why? Cause Russia don't play that shit. And they play hardball. Though they might calculate that hardball just ain't appropriate at this time, and opt for ANOTHER long term program, and play ball.

Either way, BLAMO and the end. Rather than SHEEP NO MORE, its SLAVES FOREVER.

I got carried away. To answer your question "I have often wondered what the Obungle administration's real goal was in Ukraine." in the most stark of terms...

I'd like to hear other people's theories on this subject so I can use them to refine my theory. I consider this THE most important piece of basic understanding needed for EVERYTHING we are learning and now observing.

I like to boil shit down.

It was a most important question you asked Jiminy. To understand the enemy, blah, blah, blah is to win the battle before its fought, or some Sun Tzu mumbo jumbo, but you get it. All other understanding springs outward from that.

Anyway, worth thinking about.

I will now cease my mental diarrhea. Told ya, altered state of mind. How'd I do? I can't tell for sure.

😵

Oh, and to answer your question in the micro...

To bring Ukraine into the EU for show, as it would already be in the EU in reality. And not to act as a 'buffer' against Russia, but the 'front line' against Russia.

That's short term, as the rest proceeds as I've previously written.

***Editors Note***

Before you get to thinkin', 'Will the raggedys then, rule the world and will we all become muslims? Banish the thought.

(and this is derp think btw, though based in serious though)

(real talk) The raggedys are a backward and rudimentary people, and their religion is barbaric and even more rudimentary. They are incapable of maintain a modern civilization, especially when their religion just went into Super Saiyan mode.

The real derps, masters of manipulation, will eradicate Islam, or meld into some mish mash of a weakened Islam, heathen Chinee, Wesern derp conglomeration. A derp blob, if you will.

And then the divergent elements within the conglomeration will begin to pulsate with a life of their own. Let's face it. China and Islam have a strong sense of superiority and core belief that they were meant to rule the world. And they ain't to shy about it.

So, no telling the timeline, but eventually race and religion based tribalism will turn into nationalism which will turn into revolution and war and guess where we end up? Right back where we started.

The derp dream of utopia is, was, and always has been a wisp of smoke and unnatainable given the nature of man. Derps are too smart to undertqand that, I guess. We simple folk do because we are reality based. In other words, as some here are fond of saying. God Wins. He was always going to win. Trump is just trying to skip all that middle shit.

Cause he's...

#GodsHelper

(see how I mixed that part at the end in to grab the religious people? am I good, or what)

I feel like that wasn't the short answer I started out for it to be. That last sentence just sounds wrong.

Anyway. Late night thoughts brought to you by Bagster's altered state of mind.

I'll stop now.

Or will I?

I have often wondered what the Obungle administration’s real goal was in Ukraine. Was it to ally Ukraine with NATO? Bring it into the EU? To create a new buffer with Russia? Or something else? Like, maybe a Muslim Brotherhood goal. Now, I am thinking Kosovo and Clintons.
Then As I am thinking about it, I find this:

Two Islamic festivals to become state holidays in Ukraine

1. I think it is safe to assume that Joe Blow Bite-Un et al were intent on furthering:

A) corruption for personal gain.
B) Marxist globalism to please their controllers.
C) Their own personal power-mongering where possible.
D) Muzzie conquests toward furthering B) above.

2. Muzzie Brotherhood has to be one of the main threads of treason woven into a lot of tapestries at that level of evil deeds. O’Bummer brought too many high level Muzzie Bro players into too many upper levels of government for them all to just slink away harmlessly.

3. There HAS to be a lot of scurrying for the dark corners the more light DJT throws onto the scenes. They have to know he is ‘dead-serious’ and that their necks are likely on the chopping blocks.

4. There HAS to be a lot of jockying for at least apparent cover—some scheme, propped up pile of poop to make them appear kosher vs horrifically culpable as we and they know they are.

5. It remains to be seen how many and which of them have been up to their evil pointed heads involved in the horrifically cruel very young child rape & abuse in satanic & related rituals—in addition to their financial corruption & power mongering. They must know that as the general public truly realizes they were involved in such goings on—they will truly NOT be able to walk safely down the streets.

6. It may well turn out that the hideous child sex abuse will make all the other financial and power-mongering corruptions pale by comparison.

7. The sheer unmitigated arrogance of Bite-Un et al boggles the mind. “Getting away with murder” is putting it outrageously mildly. These are folks who seriously have been & still are working toward the murder of all but 500 million of our planet’s citizens. They want to swim in deep pools of blood.

7.1 Thankfully, God will not let them get that far. Though 1/3 dead in initial genocidal efforts—followed by another 1/3 or what was left after the first genocidal efforts—works out to about half the population started with. That’s far less than they hope for but certainly an extreme amount of blood, nevertheless.

8. Keyboard warriors & others—this is NOT merely a sequence of intellectual idleness on the front porch watching the world go by. This IS a WAR OF SURVIVAL. It is IMPORTANT to stand up and be counted and each to do what we can.

9. Red-pilling our social networks is crucial to preserving our own and their necks yet a good while longer.

10. We do well to get our facts as straight as workable and to not grow weary in well doing in this war. And WAR IT IS.

my 2 cents.