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To: DannyTN

Let me clearly crystallize this for you. Please answer directly

1. Do YOU believe that the government has the unilateral right to SUSPEND constitutional rights without due process

2. Do YOU believe that the government should be allowed to arrest people for crimes that were not legislated into law (Lightfoot, newsome)

3. Do YOU believe that Americans cannot make the best decision for themselves and family without government mandates compliance

I don’t want to hear examples of when these things happened historically. I want you and the Fearpers to tell is exactly what your opinions are. Don’t hide behind bullshit. Tell us YOUR opinion


161 posted on 05/03/2020 8:23:00 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: gas_dr; DannyTN

Doc, I believe what we have here is what they call an ‘influencer.’


163 posted on 05/03/2020 8:31:45 AM PDT by gogeo (It isn't just time to open America up again: It's time to be America again.)
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To: gas_dr
"1. Do YOU believe that the government has the unilateral right to SUSPEND constitutional rights without due process"

"Without due process", no. But there are emergency laws on the books of Federal and most states, which do give due process. There's no doubt been some overreach. And probably a lot of laws need to be revised or updated, both to allow for pandemic responses and to properly limit those responses.

Courts seem to be responding to challenges well. There's a couple of controversial decisions, but what's new. Congress "should" clarify anything controversial going forward.

2. Do YOU believe that the government should be allowed to arrest people for crimes that were not legislated into law (Lightfoot, newsome)

No, but again if laws exist giving emergency powers, then those crimes may have been indirectly legislated. Those arrests no doubt will be challenged in court. We will see if their was sufficient legislation to back them.

3. Do YOU believe that Americans cannot make the best decision for themselves and family without government mandates compliance

I believe "most" Americans can make good decisions for themselves and family and community. But clearly not all Americans can do so. So I do support government mandates where public health is threatened by the actions of a few.

After all, if ALL Americans made good decisions, we wouldn't need criminal law at all.

166 posted on 05/03/2020 8:51:35 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: gas_dr

The globalists have a ‘honey to do’ list, and the coronavirus was the PERFECT cover to implement their agenda.


168 posted on 05/03/2020 8:55:12 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org)
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To: gas_dr
And even where there was overreach relative to the current state of legislation, it's not like there wasn't an elected legislative body in each case that could have taken action to block those overreaches.

That legislatures did not even lodge a protest resolution indicates that there is widespread support for those actions. Not that majority support should be allowed to substitute for legislation, but a pandemic response is different from a totalitarian takeover, even if you can't see the difference.

And again there are courts. Some things like the drive in worship services have been successfully challenged in courts. Other actions have been upheld.

We'll see how it all plays out.

I hope the laws are updated to both allow pandemic responses and to limit overreach. Of course I'm still waiting for even a single state to legislate action to verify the eligibility of Presidential candidates.

173 posted on 05/03/2020 9:00:07 AM PDT by DannyTN
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