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To: Hojczyk

So that means we all had this thing and no one needs to be on lock down. Is that right?


5 posted on 04/17/2020 2:03:43 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard

That was my takeaway from this info.


17 posted on 04/17/2020 2:21:32 PM PDT by a real Sheila (Love my golden retrievers!)
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To: Bayard
So that means we all had this thing and no one needs to be on lock down.

Absolutely correct..

19 posted on 04/17/2020 2:23:48 PM PDT by Thommas
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To: Bayard
So that means we all had this thing and no one needs to be on lock down. Is that right?

I'm fairly certain my wife and I had it in January.

I live in Texas but recently we purchased an old home in Northern Ky across from Cincinnati. It's were I grew up and I still have family there, so I decided to buy something up there instead of renting. I went up there in January to check out the house in winter, to see how well the 100 year old windows kept the cold out (surprisingly well!). I always see my best friend from high school when I'm in town and when I was up there he was bitching about just getting over the flu and how the flu shot "didn't do any good". He's kind of a cheap sob and was asking me if he could get his money back. He was telling me that there was definitely something going around in the area.

After I got home, I had what I thought was a mild flu. I took a couple of days off work and felt bad about it because I figured I was good enough to work - I just 'felt blah'. I had a mild fever, fatigue, a some general achiness and a bit of shortness of breath. I have some anxiety issues and when it's high I get tightness in the chest and shortness of breath, so I dismissed it as that.

When I came down with it my wife and I figured she would have it in a couple of days - but she didn't. A week later I was fine and she came down with something nasty. She thought it was the worst flu she had ever had. She had symptoms completely different than me, mostly digestive issues. After about 3 days she was better.

Knowing what we do now about Covid-19 and how it presents, I'm fairly certain that we had it. I'd love to take an anti-bodies test - I'd pay $500 if I knew it would be accurate.

I believe that Covid-19 spread MUCH quicker than expected and worked it's way into the US in December or early January. It was spreading around the US for 2-3 months before the lockdowns began. People were getting infected, some were getting sick and some were dying. They were being recorded as either pneumonia or chronic lower respiratory disease - the #4 cause of death in the US. And nobody really noticed. No hospitals were being overrun. No shortage of ICU beds or ventilators.

It's looking like the Cafe Fatality Rate of Covid-19 will be around 0.10%-0.13%. If 'Social Distancing' lowered the infection rate by 5%, that would represent 12,000,000 fewer infections. If the CFR is 0.13% that is 15,600 deaths avoided. If we divide the $2 Trillion stimulus by the number of deaths prevented that's $128,000,000 per death prevented. Was it worth it?
27 posted on 04/17/2020 2:40:38 PM PDT by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: Bayard

Ummm, Yeah.

IF these numbers are in the ball [ark, then we basically had a doule take of flu seaspon.

Let’s say N = total respiratory deaths due to viral infections like cold, flu, and now added covid19 (SARS).

If N is a total of all the people who would likely die in a given period of these causes, and each of the subset (N sub 1 N sub2 etc) are attributed to cold, flu A , B, covid SARS etc, then all that has happened really was reshuffling of the deadly deck.... While dead is dead and that is a terrible thing, if covid19 simply took those who were already susceptible to any or all of the other risks, then N still is N.... and it seems that N may be around 75-85k this season.... Some years Flu gets that many.....

Caveat- just my idea/opinion of how the whole may work itself out. I am not a virologist, that’s obvious.


46 posted on 04/17/2020 5:01:58 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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