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Corona Virus Daily Thread #39

Posted on 04/06/2020 10:10:41 AM PDT by Mariner

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3831993/posts?page=1


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: 39thread; covid19; cvlivethread; virus
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To: Mariner

5G-coronavirus conspiracy theory spurs rash of telecom tower arson fires

https://fortune.com/2020/04/06/5g-coronavirus-conspiracy-theory-telecom-tower-fires/

What is the gist of this 5G theory?

I suspect it’s nothing more than the aroma of bullshit.


421 posted on 04/06/2020 8:15:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

“What is the gist of this 5G theory?”

Idiocy.


422 posted on 04/06/2020 8:16:07 PM PDT by Pelham (Mary McCord, Sally Yates and Michael Atkinson all belong in prison.)
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To: Mariner

This article says it started with QAnon.

I would not be surprised.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-and-his-media-toadies-love-every-minute-of-this-crisis?ref=scroll


423 posted on 04/06/2020 8:24:23 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“More like 2/3 of the people on Free Republic have lost the ability of empirical thought. 99% of the folks who get covid 19 make a complete recovery similar to the seasonal flu but the whole country is shut down. Yeh that makes sense.”

First of all, the average CFR of the common flu is 0.1%. So even your obliviously underinformed number is 10 common flus.

Our HCS is built to handle a bad flu season. Not 10 bad flu seasons at the same time. So if as many people caught CCP-19 as catch the common flu (about 20% of the population each season), at the same pace of infection, that would collapse the HCS right there. And take the economy with it.

But fortunately, due to mitigation, only about 2% of the population has been infected with CCP-19 (so far) instead of the 20% that catch the flu each year. Nevertheless, CCP-19 is killing people at 10+ times the rate of the common flu on your average in-season flu day.

How many people would be dying each day if 10 times as many were infected (and magically our HCS didn’t collapse, somehow)? Well, 10 times as many seems like a reasonable answer. That means we’d have people dying right now at 100 times the rate they do from the flu in flu season.

Now consider that the penetrance of a new population by a “novel” virus is estimated to be between 50% and 95% depending on the R0 and incubation period of the virus. Looking at the UT Spring Break group that went to Mexico (which wasn’t even reporting more than a few cases at the time) and came back 70% infected, that seems like a reasonable compromise until we get a better data set.

So instead of dying at 10 times the rate of the common flu with 2% infected, or 100 times the rate of the flu with 20% infected, …

Use your “empirical” thinking skills to do the math yourself.

Why do you think the Chinese tore up all the roads into their main transportation hub and tanked their economy for at least 2 quarters?

You should email them with your conclusions about how this is “similar to the seasonal flu” and give them some peace of mind. Won’t *they* feel silly.


424 posted on 04/06/2020 8:26:26 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Mariner

When I was installing 5g wifi in beach condos back in 2003 I heard many of the same things from the condo bored members about the antennas. Actually came up with a standard response. Microwave antennas are much worse. Watt goes around comes around.


425 posted on 04/06/2020 8:30:07 PM PDT by CJ Wolf ( #wwg1wga #gin&tonic #godwins)
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To: Jane Long

saw her interview. This is why Trump has pressers every day = to fight the fake news.

Latest on Ecuador - 7pm curfew now a 2pm curfew; twice weekly store trips based on license plate numbers; delivery drivers from 3 day wait to 17 day wait. now 3rd highest cases in SoAm. Free internet, no utility cut-offs. 3K infections and climbing, 1.5 hospital beds/1000 people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQZnwwC-vGY


426 posted on 04/06/2020 8:30:16 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Agree.

What are these grocery stores that Dr Scarf speaks of?


427 posted on 04/06/2020 8:33:32 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Mariner

So...what gives?


428 posted on 04/06/2020 8:35:00 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Our friend’s SIL here in GA just got diagnosed with covid 19. She feels somewhat sick. She asked the medical people what should she do. They shrugged and sent her home with no drugs or prescriptions. You tell me how serious it is.”

She’s (so far) in the luckier 80% of infected that don’t have serious or critical cases. Hopefully she stays that way, but there is no guarantee of it. If her case progresses beyond “mild” (which is any set of symptoms that does not require hospitalization) to serious or critical, well, that sucks. Will it change your mind about the disease? In the mean time, she simply isn’t a bad enough case for them to deal with. Just like most flu cases that seek medical attention, she was sent home to get better. Note that they did not tell her to go around infecting others to build up that herd immunity.

US deaths are well over 10,000 now, so why do you keep saying 7300?


429 posted on 04/06/2020 8:35:56 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: blueplum

Dang. At least the Equadorians get to go to the grocery store twice/week. Dr Scarf only lets us go once every two weeks.

And, their grocery delivery waits sound familiar.

Whew....no internet cut offs and no utility cut offs.


430 posted on 04/06/2020 8:39:50 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Vermont Lt; BobL; Kartographer; JRandomFreeper; Tilted Irish Kilt; Jane Long; LilFarmer; ...
Socializing in the Time of COVID:

Le Mars residents hit the road to socialize during coronavirus pandemic (Iowa, 4/6/20)

Coronavirus DANG!

431 posted on 04/06/2020 8:40:00 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: RightGeek
How did they not realize this before. China owns everything in the country, and if they want to swoop in and take your factory's PPE they will.

432 posted on 04/06/2020 8:42:07 PM PDT by SlipperySlope99
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To: Jane Long

Why, they’re these big, well-lit places where you can purchase food, and nowadays, you can even bring home more than the food to your family.


433 posted on 04/06/2020 8:42:51 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Jane Long

Dr. Scarf’s suggestion is prudent, once you wrap your head around it, like I had to. Hopefully it remains a mere suggestion — you never can tell when you’ll need to make an emergency quick trip.


434 posted on 04/06/2020 8:44:52 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: blueplum

Peru

women and men aren’t allowed out of their homes on the same day. If they violate their day, they get arrested. Logic being to allow only half of people out on any one day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p35HtYmZ7s0


435 posted on 04/06/2020 8:45:57 PM PDT by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: All
USD announces online summer term (South Dakota, 4/6/20)
436 posted on 04/06/2020 8:46:53 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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To: Mariner

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437 posted on 04/06/2020 8:46:56 PM PDT by abigkahuna (How can you be at two places at once when you are nowhere at all?)
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

Grasping at straws as your narrative fails?

We’re at .876 H1N1s.


438 posted on 04/06/2020 8:48:27 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Well, if and when I do have to make a trip to the grocery store, I might just have to wear one of these, over my mask....


439 posted on 04/06/2020 8:49:06 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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Iowa hotline set up for coronavirus-related legal issues (4/6/20)
440 posted on 04/06/2020 8:51:18 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Wu Flu! (when I feel heavy metal) Wu Flu! (when I'm pins and I'm needles) Wu Flu!)
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