Corona Virus Daily Thread #34

[Mariner]

Yesterday's thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3830232/posts?page=1

[BobL]

“...while dodging the 8 dogs who want to see us.”

Something tells me it wasn’t only time constraints that had you guys go out to eat often.

[Jane Long]

They are big Petri dishes. Those things will be full of Covid by the end of next week.

== =

That’s what I am scrathing my head, wondering about.

[LilFarmer]

My husband keeps every bent nail, as did his father and his grandfather. I have five gallon buckets of bent nails lol. We even inherited some 😁

[Mariner]

New daily thread here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3831016/posts

[Jane Long]

I noticed that (about Burpees), the other day.

Here’s another source I’ve used....

https://www.gurneys.com

[BobL]

“My husband keeps every bent nail, as did his father and his grandfather. I have five gallon buckets of bent nails lol. We even inherited some”

I never did...but I certainly look differently at bent nails, and probably will start keeping them!

[amorphous]

Do you know where I can download the charts the White House at that briefing? Been looking for them with no luck.

Did you have any luck?

[firebrand]

My father was like that; not my mother. Mother’s family came over in the mid 1800s; father’s family 1911 if I remember right. The slight difference in economic conditions made all the difference in how frugal they were.

My father would save all the little twist ties and things for future use. One time he announced to the family that he saw in the garbage that someone had thrown away a perfectly good twist tie. He saw the humor in it himself, though.

[the OlLine Rebel]

Re: landline phones.

Well, we loved having it until the last couple years, Verizon FORCED us to go to FIOS which means, now even the land-line depends on electricity from the “grid”! We have a big battery back-up for that.

That was the POINT of having a land-line - always available even in power outage!

[Black Agnes]

Ya, Gurneys has been good too.

Jungs, RH Shumway, Totally Tomatoes, Parks, Baker Creek, ...

I did notice that some, fedco for example, have stopped shipping. Johnny’s is only doing commercial orders right now too.

Fedco says they’ll be back May 1. Hope so, that was one company I had a few things still in the ‘want’ but don’t need catagory.

[DEPcom]

Here you go chart projections

[firebrand]

You could try informing them that their assets are not safe if this thing gets a lot worse.

[In_Iowa_not_from]

If things get bad, one extremely piece of equipment that many people don’t have but would need long term would be a sewing machine.

In 3rd world countries, a sewing machine is often a family’s prized possession. In the USA, it is probably the most under-valued and under-priced piece of practical equipment you can currently get.

As far as a practical basic used straight stitch machine goes that you can easily find for cheap (say $10-30 for a bare sewing machine head, $40-69 in a portable case or table with motor, $50-150 in an antique treadle cabinet , I would suggest 1 of these 3 types for ease of use, spare parts, and supplies:

(1) SINGER Class 15 (or compatible— Sold as Kenmore and other brands in the 1950s-1960s). Easy to find bobbins, needles, and spare parts for. Style was still being made in India and China (until Wuhan virus hit). Tens of millions were made by Singer and copies were made in Japan, Taiwan, Europe, etc. All cast iron and steel construction. Can be powered by treadle, hand crank, or electric.

(2) Runner up is the SINGER Class 66 (includes the 99) (or compatible). Easy to find needles, and some parts, but bobbins are somewhat more expensive and spare parts are usually cannibalized from old pre-1960s machines. Made by SINGER from 1900-1950s and also in the 1950s in Japan. Powered by treadle, hand crank, or electric.

(3) In a pinch, the SINGER Class 27 (includes the 28, 127, and 128). Easy to find needles, bullet shuttle and bobbins still made by 1 company in China, spare parts are usually cannibalized from Victorian era machines. These are usually best powered by treadle or hand crank. Many of the antique treadle Singer machines you see on craigslist are the 27 class and are found in treadle cabinets. The good thing about these machines is that they are plentiful, but were last made in large quantities in the 1930s, so spare parts are usually cannibalized as aside from slide plates, shuttle, and bobbins, parts aren’t made.

Honorable mention - White FR (rotary). Uses Singer needles, but oddball bobbins. Excellent, robust machine, but last made in the 1950s so spare parts would need to be cannibalized.

There are many better, fancier machines but they usually either cost more or are harder to find parts for (i.e. Singer 201, 301, 221/222 Featherweight, computerized marvels, etc).

Avoid most oddball makes or very old machines (pre-WWII) for anything other than decoration or a backup machine as many use needles and bobbins that haven’t been made since WWII (i.e. Domestic, Minnesota, Eldridge, Davis, etc). Now, if you can find one for $5 or it’s sitting on the side of the street, that’s a different story. But I wouldn’t advise spending $100 on a machine that you can’t find supplies for when that same money can get you something practical.

You can find pictures online for what these machines look like and then go on craigslist to find them locally.

[PA Engineer]

Had the Mods remove it last night. Best.

[dakine]

I like to eat.. No quitting of job....

[chris37]

One of them, Florida, only owns a car from 2006. That’s about it. All of his other money went to his wife and her two daughters for the last 15 years.

My New Orleans friend owns quite a bit more than that, but what worries me there is his mom. I’ve known her a long time, and I love her very much. So far, though, I haven’t been very successful in convincing him of the danger.

[Vermont Lt]

It certainly keeps out dust. I wear one when it’s cold....it causes my glasses to fog. It’s gonna be hot as hell once it warms up.

[Vermont Lt]

The BIG hospital is connected directly to the gas main, so they would be fine...unless that system crapped out.

The hospital I worked at had diesels, with about a weeks supply. But we were literally across the street from the local supply. Transport could be a 200 yard hose, I guess.

[Steve Van Doorn]

Taken from previous thread
"2018 flu stats.............47 million cases......647,000 hospitalized.....67,000 died!!!" -Trump Girl Kit Cat

I agree with you that this is virus has been an over reaction from the start. It IS little worse then the common flu in Italy and China because they received "Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE)" both banned by the FDA in 2004 and 2012 which makes a mild infection life threatening decades later (given the cells have a long memory)

Why freepers are buying this media driven BS I'm still puzzled by. I can understand the Media driving this but why are freepers buying this. I don't get that yet.

I've talked with Jane Long about how she and many on this thread uses confirmed cases and claim this is the death rate when it's NOT.
The death rate is death/total contracted. It is NOT death/confirmed cases of SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19 is the symptoms from SARS-CoV-2)

To calculate the death rate you need figures on the total number of people that contracted the virus. Lets take the worst case Italy which received the ADE. From these reports that makes the SARS-CoV-2 death rate at approximately 0.2% to 1.3% of the population in Italy. Which is far worse then the flu. Again, this is Italy. It will be far less in the States, Germany, UK and South Korea which didn't receive ADE.

From this report "individuals have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 up to 28th March, representing between 1.88%and 11.43%of the population"
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/media/imperial-college/medicine/sph/ide/gida-fellowships/Imperial-College-COVID19-Europe-estimates-and-NPI-impact-30-03-2020.pdf

From this report: We estimate 86% of all infections were undocumented"
https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2020/03/24/science.abb3221

[Vermont Lt]

The death rate is not important to most people. There is a low, low probability this will kill you.

Death rates are incalculable until the pandemic is over, so basing anything on them now is not really going to get you anywhere.

The other part of this is the folks comparing countrywide numbers against the dozen or so hot spots in the country right now. They are not similar sets of numbers. The virus spreads, like weeds on a lawn. What NYC is doing today is what Chicago will do in two weeks.

The Flubros can’t do simple math or basic reading on how viruses spread.

Thank Rush and Trump for that. At least Trump has changed his spots.

But, they are not interested in learning or discussing. Whatever.