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Corona Virus Daily Thread #26

Posted on 03/24/2020 10:11:11 AM PDT by Mariner

Thread #25 here:

http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3827443/posts?page=1


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To: ncalburt

Keeping Spring Break open fits in well with the goal to get herd 9immunity among the young.
\Hopefully those at risk kept the heck away from them.


361 posted on 03/24/2020 2:08:31 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts (M / F) : Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: kaila

“The definition of herd immunity is a certain percentage of people contract a virus ( or gets vaccinated), and when you get to a certain number, it protects the vulnerable.”

And if you do it all at once it crashes the HCS and then the economy. And 1 in 11 people die. Which permanently destroys the HCS and creates a depression.

So a metered approach is best while we develop countermeasures such as a vaccine, treatments such as HCQ+AZT, and build the friggin’ ventilators and other medical items we will need and make the drugs we will use.

What’s so hard about that?

Build what we need now. Make the drugs used to treat. Develop vaccine for future inoculations.

Gradually expose the population, keeping the case load low enough so that our HCS, now going into war mode, can sustain the load and respond to hotspots. That way, the 1.something% CFR, like in South Korea, which is horrible enough, does not become the 9.something% CFR, like in Italy.

What’s so hard about that, either?


362 posted on 03/24/2020 2:09:44 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: DEPcom

Actually rush said it was like the common cold.

He said it was named covid 19 because there were 18 more like it and they included the common cold.

ignorance all around for rush.

I was shocked actually at the ignorance of his statements.

I asked at the time what percent of the EIB network was owned by chicoms...I’d still like to know that.


363 posted on 03/24/2020 2:09:54 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

Is it prophylactic?


364 posted on 03/24/2020 2:09:57 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I’ve seen indications that it’s being used as such.

The question remains, if taken prophylactically, do you develop antibodies if exposed. If not, you’re just kicking the can down the road.


365 posted on 03/24/2020 2:11:17 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Thud

‘seniors’ own and run the majority of businesses in the USA. Lock them up and there are no jobs for the stupid who think jobs just materialize because they want them.

Better to turn the seniors loose to run their companies, and only let 20-50yo’ds come back to work, with a doctor’s clearance note after 15 days of provable quarantine. And lock up the rug rats that are the carriers for 21 days while your at it. If the kids test clean, and their parents don’t get sick from them, their young parents can come back to work - with a doctor’s clearance.


366 posted on 03/24/2020 2:11:33 PM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: DEPcom

I think people are bright about whatever it is they “do.”

On the rest of everything else, most people are ignorant. Not stupid. They just don’t know what they are talking about. But, they want to sound smart. So they go along.

Honestly, I think Trump has handled this fairly well.

I think this decision is a mistake, but I don’t get a vote. I am not going out anywhere, so it doesn’t matter to me.

This is the week we should start seeing people die in large numbers.

We will see. No hysteria. No panic. Just scratching my head at the stupid.


367 posted on 03/24/2020 2:11:44 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Trump Girl Kit Cat

“NOT if these drugs work which it looks very likely they will work!! Wonder what all the doom and gloomers will do then!!!”

We all hope they do. And if they do, no doubt you will claim credit for something you didn’t even know about that ended up masking your horrible judgement.

And we will all then mock you for it.


368 posted on 03/24/2020 2:12:16 PM PDT by calenel (Don't panic. Prepare and be vigilant. Join the war effort. On the human side.)
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To: Black Agnes

They have malaria in China. I wonder why they did not notice that?


369 posted on 03/24/2020 2:13:00 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: bgill
TX shelter in place

Bell County (S of Waco)

Bexar County (San Antonio)

Brazos County

Cameron County

Collin County (N of Dallas)

Dallas County (Dallas)

Denton County (N of Dallas)

El Paso County

Galveston County

Harris County (Houston)

Hidalgo County

Hunt County

Lampasas County

McLennan County (Waco)

Rockwall County

Tarrant County (Fort Worth)

Travis County (Austin)

Williamson County (N of Austin)

Dem strong holds and mostly along I-35.

370 posted on 03/24/2020 2:13:04 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site doesn't recommend wearing a mask to protect from COVID-19)
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To: Black Agnes
Exactly .
The keys have a few very small hospitals and clinics .
Right next door is the SFL .
Miami / Ft Lauderdale full of New York / NJ now will be the next cluster .
We have the clueless weak Governor more interested in keeping donors
happy.
371 posted on 03/24/2020 2:13:15 PM PDT by ncalburt (Gop DC Global)
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To: calenel

And how are people going to support their families and eat?
It is a trade off.
The majority of deaths are in the 70 plus age group, so it probably will not crash the economy, as harsh as that may sound.
Right now, we have a quarantine order. People are still socializing here in WA state.
The only way to stall it is do as China did. Lock people in their homes.


372 posted on 03/24/2020 2:14:15 PM PDT by kaila
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To: Black Agnes

“I’ve seen indications that it’s being used as such.”

I’ve it is prophylactic, then it could be provided to front line, critical infrastructure workers.


373 posted on 03/24/2020 2:14:39 PM PDT by BusterDog
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To: Vermont Lt

“The 401(k) was the single worst financial product ever created.”

Telling people you should leave the 401K investment were it is at, the market will come back. The problem with that some of us do not have 10 years for the things to come back.

Another issue with 401K they are not truly diversified.

I move my 401K from a high risk to a stable fund because I saw it before it happen.


374 posted on 03/24/2020 2:14:42 PM PDT by DEPcom
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To: Black Agnes

It goes back to a simple, basic question: do you want to work next to someone who has this disease?

I know my answer.


375 posted on 03/24/2020 2:15:15 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: impimp
” The number of people diagnosed with the disease DOES NOT equal the number of people infected.”

Idiot of the century award right there Biden. If you’re DIAGNOSED with the virus YOU ARE INFECTED. Go back to your flat earth society meeting. Your idiot followers miss you. WE DO NOT.

376 posted on 03/24/2020 2:15:16 PM PDT by datura
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To: amorphous
You are completely correct.
"I've read how bad you get it depends upon the initial viral load you receive. If you come in contact with only a few particles, your body has time to build up at least some resistance to the virus before it can replicate to larger amounts.

This makes me think masks really are helpful."


377 posted on 03/24/2020 2:15:46 PM PDT by Thud
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To: scouter; jstolzen
Maybe he can see what's blatantly clear. Trump is always on a meta-level. He's doing an FDR. He's giving us the spiritual food we desperately need. We may lose the war anyway, but without that we can never win.
378 posted on 03/24/2020 2:17:17 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Vermont Lt

That particular family of meds has been out of favor for that for over 20 years, perhaps longer.

IIRC the current favored med is an artemesinin family compound.

FWIW I don’t believe any of the mortality numbers from China. I might be convinced that beijing and shanghai had lower numbers but only becuase they isolated them sooner and ‘protected’ them.

However, there are likely food born/herb/spice antiviral compounds that may have/currently be moderating serious cases/deaths in other parts of the world.

I’ve wondered if the death rate ‘lacking’ in Germany is because they might eat a lot of fermented veggies...


379 posted on 03/24/2020 2:17:20 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: DEPcom

A shutdown is inevitable. Many of the mild cases cause the infected to miss from 1 to 3 weeks. This is not the flu bros.


380 posted on 03/24/2020 2:17:21 PM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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