Posted on 03/24/2020 8:26:13 AM PDT by God luvs America
I received a 2020 Census letter today. I live in NY and have no intention of completing the census; i prefer not to assist NY in any way- including filling out the census so they get more aid from Washington which they ten disperse to illegals, criminals, etc. The envelope claims "your response is required by law." What, if any, are the ramifications of not filling out the census? Thanks.
Same here, except the census girl came to my door and tried to trick me into answering questions.. when I called her out on it she got nervous and went away.
Race. Other. American
I did mine too for the same reason. They have been valuable in my genealogy searches. I’m pretty much done with my tree on dad’s side. Have a little research on mom’s. Have a mystery couple on both trees (can’t find reliable info on them). Descend from their son on one side and a daughter on the other...so double cousins from there down...lol...and no, they weren’t from Alabama...from early Virginia.
Provide them with telemarketer phone number. Harass them as they harass us.
I filled mine out online. Took 3 minutes. Pretty hard to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States....[and] bear true faith and allegiance to the same” while ignoring an explicit Constitutional requirement!
And old habits die hard. ;>)
I found this:
If you don’t respond, you can expect the Census Bureau to follow up in person to collect the information they need. You can also face penalties of up to $5,000 for not reporting or answering the questionnaire according to census law under U.S. Code section 224.
The last time I filled out a form asking for my race I wrote in “human”.
+ me too, as I do on every form that asks.
They will pester you to death with mailings, and eventually, a visit by a Census worker who will not leave your property until you give them the information they want.
Please think this over people. The number of Congressional representatives you have is based on the census. Do you want more conservatives in Congress? Then please fill out your census form.
We don’t like the way the government spends our money? WE need more reps. who truly represent us. By failing to register we are cutting off our noses to spite our face. More Republicans in Congress is the only way to slow the giveaways. We will never stop them.
I filled ours out over the weekend. This is not the long form with the intrusive questions (The American Community Survey). It’s quick and easy. It asks for names and ages, and verifies your permanent address. That’s less information than you give them on your tax return.
As I understand, the penalty is that they will send someone to your home to try to get you to fill it out.
they ask for your sex .... not your gender
Forgive this long post. I got one too & I understand your frustration with your state, I really do.
If there’s no other good reason to do this, would you please think of your legacy and your future? This sounds weird, doesn’t it?
I’m an amateur genealogist and the various years’ state and federal census (1850 to 1940) has helped me find ancestors I never knew existed. It helped me trace where they lived, where they migrated and from there, I could find more information about how they lived.
Apparently, my father’s family are the descendants - FIRST generation! - of the original “Cajuns” (Acadiens) - in NE Canada, known as “French Canada” in the census from 1910-1940. Through these census, I could track the “Second Exodus” of 1850 onward from Canada to a little industrial town called Lowell, Massachusetts and then points beyond.
The history of my family heritage was completely UNKNOWN to my cousins & brothers, history that includes that we are “Metis”, that our family fought in the French and Indian War with the Indians, that there was a Second Revolutionary War in 1812, called the “Battle of Aroostook (Maine)” - make no mistake, because of the census information, I learned my family did NOT board those ships to places like the Caribbean or New Orleans - they hid in Canada, escaping the British with the Mi’kMaq & Wabanaki and settling in various towns in what was then part of Maine until the “Bloodless War”.
My father would talk about some pieces of history here & there, but they assimilated into American society. His father was forbidden to speak the French and passed this to my aunts & uncles and our history was forgotten until I began to dig - using the census information to prove the migration.
They were Quakers on my mother’s side & again, through these census records, I was able to track them from Maryland, to NC, to Indiana and then to Iowa, where my grandfather was born.
With Quakers, I had Quaker records to read as well as the state and federal census records, but the state & federal census records were easier to find & read and I could track the westward expansion of not only my ancestors but of an entire Quaker sect. I was able to piece who lived with whom, neighbors (wow, I had no idea that they knew so & so) and again, was able to trace their movements as part of the history of the Pioneers who went west. Yes, they were the Pioneers we read about in school, setting up churches as they moved on.
I get what seems like an intrusion on our lives - who’s business is it how much the monthly rent/mortgage is, who lives with us, our yearly income, etc? It burns my britches, too.
Then again, looking back, I can tell you who else will care - about 5-10 years after we’ve passed away, if not sooner, someone in our family will begin to dig away at our past and our heritage. They will seek out all they can that maybe we’ve talked about or maybe we’ve hidden away in the recesses of our minds. Search, they will & what will they find? The 2020 census won’t be available to the public for a very long time. The last census made public is currently 1940.
Will you be merely a name on someone’s tree leaving a question-marked trail? Or will you add that 3rd dimension we genealogists look for so our ancestors are more than a word, they are the embodiment of who we are today.
There will be people who’ll laugh at this post - but truth be told, I’ve been a messed up kid all my life. When I began my ancestral search, I realized that I’m the product of what happens when the ebullient Acadiens meet with ultra staid Quakers and for the first time ever, I understood so many things. There was a cultural tug-of-war going on and none of us even realized it.
The Census information gathered in those years helped me piece my own life together and heal many hurts & not just mine!
Don’t do it for the State. Do it for your kids & grandchildren, nieces/nephews that will come along after you’re gone. When names are similar or if you have two John Jacob Schmidts, these State & Federal Census help us figure out which one we’re looking at & which one we matches the research because we know where they lived, who’s in the family and we can piece it all together properly.
There, as an amateur genealogist, I said it.
If they had a blank to fill in, I’d probably be a smartass and write in “Yes, please!”
I always appreciate nice knockers.
I had no problem with filling it out.
I will say under “race” I answered “Indy 500” but otherwise I was legit.
And for that, they only need to ascertain the answer to one question, how many people live in your household.
Got mine.. checked in online and it was what it should be.
How many people in your home (2), ethnicity which is always fun to play with and that was pretty much it... nothing on how much you make, no phone number and all the other BS I saw in the past long page forms that I never did.
They will expose you to the chinavirus, and once you get it, you will be given the placebo in the control group.
They know who you are, and they are watching your response.
If you are a male, castration, if you are female, nipple removal, if you are a trans, you pick'em, but you gotta cut'em yourse'f.
Good luck with that knife, but it's better just to fill out the form, it will only take about 10 minutes, and I won't watch.
“WE need more reps. who truly represent us.”
Re-read the original post....a NEW YORK STATE resident does NOT want more Reps....and I agree completely! I strongly urge Wyoming residents to fill out their forms. New York residing patriots have to analyze the situation a bit deeper.
I scrolled to the bottom on the ethnicity section and and checked other and filled it in with “US Citizen”
We should all do that.
Stop giving them race/ethnicity information to divide us with.
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