[SunkenCiv]

Maiden Castle Hill fort, Dorset [Source: Dorset Council]

• A new scientific dating technique has revealed there was a building spree more than 5,500 years ago, when many of the most spectacular monuments in the English landscape, such as Maiden Castle in Dorset and Windmill Hill in Wiltshire, were built, used and abandoned in a single lifetime.
  
  The fashion for the monuments, hilltops enclosed by rings of ditches, known to archaeologists as causewayed enclosures, instead of being the ritual work of generations as had been believed, began on the continent centuries earlier but spread from Kent to Cornwall within 50 years in about 3700 BC.
  
  Alex Bayliss, an archaeologist and dating expert at English Heritage, said: "The dates were not what we expected when we began this project but prehistorians are just going to have to get their heads around it, a lot of what we have been taught in the past is complete bollocks."

  Archaeology dating technique uncovers 'property boom' of 3700 BC | 06/07/2011 8:31:41 PM PDT | SunkenCiv | Guardian UK | Monday 6 June 2011 | Maev Kennedy

[BenLurkin]

https://webmail.lerctr.org/~transit/healy/wacky.wav

[Larry Lucido]

Yeah, that’s what they told Augustus about Teutoberg. “Never happened!”

[Billthedrill]

Brian Williams was there. So was Joe Biden, but he doesn’t remember any details.

[Leaning Right]

That battle did happen. Brian Williams himself told me.

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks!

How much of our ancient history is based on bs/lies/????.

[JimRed]

ACADEMIC (ak-uh-DEM-ik): An individual educated beyond his intelligence who is incapable of creating or providing goods or services of value to others, who hides out in a college or university pontificating and expects to be paid for it, usually from public funds.

[centurion316]

Recent archaeology would suggest that the Roman invasion in AD 43 was more complex than the notion of a climatic battle. Some, if not most, of the Britan tribes welcomed the Romans and became early allies. They knew the advantages of being a part of the Roman Empire and were motivated to cooperate with the Roman Army.

The Romans also liked to take as hostages the children of local rulers. These hostages were taken to Rome where they were well treated and were taught the Roman system. They were returned to their homeland when the Romans were well established and they became the local rulers, acting as agents for the Roman empire. It was good to be a Roman and most of the world wanted to sign up.

Of course, some tribes resisted, including tribes in Dorset and in Wales. Evidence of Roman battles in Britain is extremely rare with legends and fragments of historical records providing only a few clues of what might have actually occurred.

[Varda]

Mythmakers of Maiden Castle: Breaking the Siege Mentality of an Iron Age Hillfort - Dr Miles Russell
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/ojoa.12172

[dynachrome]

It was Roman KKK massa-creeeing peaceful African immigrants to Britain, I tell ya!

[Mr Radical]

Being fortunate to have spent today clambering over one of these monuments, I cannot believe they were constructed as fashion. If they spread in a relatively short time period of 50 years, that strikes me as supporting the notion that they were built in response to a crisis or perceived threat.
As always, thanks for posting.

[jerod]

Could this be classified as ‘very old’ news?

[poconopundit]

Hey SunkenCiv, apparently the Brits have a knack for malarkey.

When Doug Bower and his co-conspirator Dave Chorley first created a representation of a “flying saucer nest” in a wheat field in Wiltshire, England, in 1976, they could not have foreseen that their work would become a cultural phenomenon.

Almost as soon as crop circles became public knowledge, they attracted a gaggle of self-appointed experts.  An efflorescence of mystical and magical thinking, scientific and pseudo-scientific research, conspiracy theories and general pandemonium broke out.

The patterns stamped in fields were treated as a lens through which the initiated could witness the activity of earth energies and ancient spirits, the anguish of Mother Earth in the face of impending ecological doom, and evidence of secret weapons testing and, of course, aliens.

Crop Circles: The Art of the Hoax — Smithsonian Magazine