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To: Steve Van Doorn

the rest of my post was all the ‘hot’ countries that currently have cases. French Polynesia and Sudan were a sweltering 90 degrees today so they should have been disease free in what, 2 days? 85 in So. Africa. 95 in Nigeria. 98 in Thailand. But they all have cases. The virus seems to really like 101 degrees. Since that’s the tell-tale temp of an infected body.

40C or 104F for an hour - it might work on surfaces but it’s not going to work in living lung tissue. The body will try to cool the lung. It’s a losing battle. But if you want to do the sweat lodge thing, go for it. I won’t

We cannot definitively say that heat is a limiter on anything but external surfaces because we don’t have a study on letting human body temp get to 104 for an hour although there is anecdotal evidence that it’s not going to kill the virus.

re: Quercetin. doesn’t mesh with a lot of medications

https://www.webmd.com/vitamins/ai/ingredientmono-294/quercetin

But if you’re talking zinc uptake, what you really want to talk about is hydroxychloroquine (less side effects) or chloroquine (more side effects) - but then you have to consider the effect on the QT interval and potential for heart arrhythmias at clinical doses. And, since the study was based on Korean treatment, and not a double-blind study, it’s still all experimental, isn’t it? That is, also not a definitive cure.

here’s two videos on zinc, watch them in order
the first covers in vitro experiments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eeh054-Hx1U';

this one goes deeper and discusses the potential of hydroxychloroquine as a zinc pump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7F1cnWup9M

enjoy


833 posted on 03/18/2020 1:39:11 AM PDT by blueplum ( ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017))
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To: blueplum

Warm weather is not going to “stop” a virus. But it should reduce it’s length of viability outside the body somewhat. People still get “summer colds”, nonetheless. I certainly have.

Likely Vitamin D, UV (sunshine), people simply not being crammed together indoors, etc., all make some difference.

I still think this could be a tough summer, though.


847 posted on 03/18/2020 2:44:00 AM PDT by Paul R. (The Lib / Socialist goal: Total control of nothing left wort h controlling.)
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To: blueplum; datura
said, "French Polynesia and Sudan were a sweltering 90 degrees today so they should have been disease free in what, 2 days?"

yes in two days the virus will stop reproducing. but NOT in those conditions you gave. As people try to stay cool.
Our nasal cavities operate at a temperature between 91 to 95 deg F. This test shows raising the temperature of the nasal cavities the virus does not reproduce as easily at 98 deg F. Our lungs operate at 97 deg F and isn't the area the virus reproduces.

https://www.pnas.org/content/early/2016/07/05/1601942113.full

881 posted on 03/18/2020 6:33:50 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: blueplum; datura
Notice in your second video which was in the link I gave. At 7:15 in the video he describes what I've been saying.
That is zinc ions will enter the cells even without an Ionophore. Which shows it can be used as a preventative. With an ionophores the zinc ion greatly increases it's effectiveness.

I've been saying that there are other ionophores that are not as effective as hydroxychloroquine that can be found over the counter. One is Quercetin which is found in some foods.

Here is the link look at figure 2: The control without using any ionophores proves Zinc does work to an extent. Because zinc ions are small enough to pass through the walls of the cell without any help.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4182877/

898 posted on 03/18/2020 7:02:22 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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