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"In Italy, a National Health System funded by taxes... In the US, the world’s most unequal country, the average income of the top 10 percent is 19 times the average income in the bottom 10 percent; in Italy that ratio is only 11 to one, with the UK halfway in between."

How to reduce income inequality? Partly by hindering people from being rich:

Average yearly income in the US: (USD): $62,850. Cost of living index: 100.00

Average yearly income (USD): $33,560. Cost of living index: 90.5 [which means everyday expenses in that country are 10% less than they are in the United States, while income is about half as much]. (https://www.businessinsider.com/average-annual-income-around-the-world-2019-8#17-italy-9)

Standard Of Living By Country 2020

United States: 13; Italy: 37 (https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/standard-of-living-by-country/)

Highest marginal tax rate (individual rate) applied to the taxable income of individuals. Italy: 43%; U.S. 25% [2009] (https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Economy/Tax/Highest-marginal-tax-rate/Individual-rate)

Note also that as concerns Convid-19 cases, Al Jazeera reports:

At the end of December, an uncommon number of pneumonia cases arrived at the hospital of Codogno in northern Italy, the head of the emergency ward, Stefano Paglia, told the newspaper La Repubblica. Some of these patients could carry the coronavirus, but doctors treated them as typical winter diseases.

Unfortunately, a decisive contribution to the spread of the infection was given by the health facility itself, due to the amount of medical staff and attendees going through the compound daily. "The hospital acted as a multiplier," Walter Ricciardi, executive board member of the World Health Organization (WHO) and consultant for the Italian health ministry, told Al Jazeera.

Italy has tested more than 42,000 people so far, while other European Union countries performed significantly fewer controls. This scrupulous search inflated the tally, he said. (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-wreaks-havoc-italy-tests-limits-health-system-200307112350888.html)

1 posted on 03/16/2020 12:37:09 PM PDT by daniel1212
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To: daniel1212

[[What can Italy teach the rest of the world about health?]]

That it’s healthier not to live there?


2 posted on 03/16/2020 12:39:30 PM PDT by Bob434
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Edit title, ["by a liberal doctor advocate."] Sorry.
3 posted on 03/16/2020 12:43:07 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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doctors trained on books rather than patients

That may be true. A friend, who went to medical school in Italy, often mentioned that all of the training was out of the textbooks and that class attendance was not mandatory; indeed, in some courses, he and his fellow students merely appeared only for their oral final exams. The real learning came when they interned back here in the States.

4 posted on 03/16/2020 12:43:38 PM PDT by Salvey
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It can teach don’t let unfettered travel occur from China where there’s an epidemic to the fashion industry’s center because you want cheap Chinese manufacturing and labor in your “made in “Italy” factories.


6 posted on 03/16/2020 12:45:26 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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French President Emmanuel Macron announced drastic measures, prohibiting gatherings across France, including family and other social gatherings.

The second round of the French elections will be also postponed, Macron said.

Earlier today, the city of Paris announced the closure of all public parks and gardens.

Macron said the country is “in a war” against the coronavirus outbreak.

“We are in a war… that’s why I decided that all reforms debated in parliament will be suspended,” he said. The government will draft a new legislation to face the crisis.

A new military hospital will be deployed to reduce hospital congestion, Macron said.


7 posted on 03/16/2020 12:46:10 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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It’s where well-connected Cubans go./s


8 posted on 03/16/2020 12:47:29 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 ("SHUT UP!" he explained.)
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An article wherein we learn the value of a high ranking in health by the World Health Organization.

By golly, that WHO sure knows what they are talking about.

And of course, so does Comrade Levinson!


11 posted on 03/16/2020 12:49:43 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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“Susan Levenstein is an American doctor who has been practicing in Italy for the past 40 years.”

Hmmm ... is she “sheltering in place” or did she hop a refugee boat for America, I wonder?

[’Cause people of her generation don’t seem to be enjoying the beneficial aspects of Italian health care these days ...]


12 posted on 03/16/2020 12:55:17 PM PDT by Simon Foxx
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But here’s the rub: Italians are much healthier than Americans

Probably because they have to be!

13 posted on 03/16/2020 12:58:02 PM PDT by SamAdams76 (Trump (859); Slow Joe (527); Commie (476); Fake Indian (48); Drunken Weld (1))
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They can teach basic hygiene.

With 100,000 Chinese working in Italian factories and direct flights to Wuhan, higher rates of contagion are understandable.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/03/a_masterful_post_explains_why_coronavirus_in_china_and_america_may_differ.html


14 posted on 03/16/2020 1:00:04 PM PDT by reasonisfaith (What are the implications if the Resurrection of Christ is a true event in history?)
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This is a year old. I wonder what she thinks today. And you can’t catch obesity by shaking hands with somebody.


17 posted on 03/16/2020 1:05:08 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Prayers for Rush)
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I told a lady at the food section of wal-mart today, that empty shelves are normal under socialism. Told her this is what Bernie and his morons want.


18 posted on 03/16/2020 1:09:07 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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What are the US statistics once the 6% of the population causing more than 50% of the murders is excluded?


20 posted on 03/16/2020 1:16:34 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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Absolutely nothing. They botched the diagnosis of JPII (who a few years after being shot had cancer), almost killed him with the surgery, and it had to be redone in a couple of years. And he was an important person ... the rest of the Italians get even worse.

The same is true of the Spanish health system, where everybody is pleading to go to a private facility. I’ve spent a lot of time in Spain and I know that from experience.

Is it any wonder that these two countries have the highest rates?

(Also, I have read that Italy, which was also having a regular seasonal flu outbreak going on, is misdiagnosing a lot of cases and just calling them Cornavirus.)


23 posted on 03/16/2020 1:29:18 PM PDT by livius
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It's always the same solution for LIEberals:

"YOU have too much money and freedom. The Government [WE] must take some of it to fix things, and you're selfish if you insist on keeping what belongs to you."
24 posted on 03/16/2020 1:37:00 PM PDT by Darteaus94025 (Can't have a Liberal without a Lie)
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“infant mortality”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Plenty of room for manipulating stats on that one. In the U.S. we try to save the tiniest of premature babies.


36 posted on 03/16/2020 3:46:11 PM PDT by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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I decided to try to find out what this progressive paragon of medical practice was doing today. Was she in Italy trying to save her patients? Had she already died heroically doing just that, and I was being unfair to her?

Nope. Skedaddled out of Italy the first week of March to go to conferences in the US. And now, oh golly, she is stuck in the US and can’t get back to Italy, where the health care is so much better than here:

http://www.stethoscopeonrome.com/2020/03/notes-from-coronavirus-refugee.html


40 posted on 03/17/2020 3:39:16 PM PDT by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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How many Americans in a lifetime need deworming pills?


41 posted on 03/17/2020 3:40:21 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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