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How far-reaching is the restaurant shutdown order in NE Ohio because of the coronavirus?
Cleveland.com ^ | 3/15/20 | Marc Bona

Posted on 03/15/2020 4:59:48 PM PDT by david1292

CLEVELAND, Ohio - The order for Ohio’s restaurants and bars to shut down at 9 p.m. Sunday has far-reaching tentacles affecting a multitude of businesses.

Eateries big and small, locally owned and corporate-run, breweries, wineries and tertiary businesses will all feel the impact of the order issued Sunday by Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine.

Zack Bruell - who owns half a dozen restaurants all in Cleveland, including L'Albatros Brasserie in University Circle and Alley Cat Oyster Bar in the Flats East Bank - said just hours before the announcement of the mandatory shutdown he would have preferred his businesses to stay open. That's because he was hoping to maintain some sense of cash flow for his workers, but he understands the severity of the pandemic. In Ohio, 36 cases have been confirmed.

"There is no response. You're told 'That’s what you have to do,' you do it. There are certain fixed costs you have that go on regardless … If I were independently wealthy I would take care of every one of my employees. If I had that type of money, no problem. But I don’t."

That financial impact was not lost on DeWine, who announced the restaurants-shutdown decision Sunday "based on the best available scientific data we can get our hands on."

DeWine's decision came moments after he said concerned people all over Ohio - "from Mahoning Valley to Cleveland to southern Ohio" - had sent him pictures "of crowded bars in their area." DeWine then stressed the critical need for social distancing especially with one of the year's biggest bar days - St. Patrick's Day - coming up Tuesday, March 17.

(Excerpt) Read more at cleveland.com ...


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To: david1292

Illinois is closing dine-in only thru the 30th, which makes sense to balance risk vs economic impact by allowing some businesses to stay in operation.


21 posted on 03/15/2020 5:27:56 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: madison10

Normaly I dont like Tommie the Commie but he has taken the same approach as Michigan for now only shut down in are worst effected good for him for not over reaccting


22 posted on 03/15/2020 5:29:26 PM PDT by wattojawa (Diseny: Destroying your childhood since 2010)
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To: bigbob

There should be a lot of wholesale grub going on sale. If it’s not used by restaurants, it has to move somewhere, at least the limited shelf life items.


23 posted on 03/15/2020 5:30:02 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: tennmountainman

A vaccine?

You realize we are 18 months away from a vaccine, right? You want these businesses to stay closed for 18 months and you think they can just reopen at that point like nothing ever happened?


24 posted on 03/15/2020 5:30:33 PM PDT by david1292
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To: steve86

And if you were a smart business owner you’d have a drive-thru by noon tomorrow. There’s no crying in adapt, improvise, overcome.


25 posted on 03/15/2020 5:31:07 PM PDT by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: david1292

The slippery slope of big socialist government gets steeper and more slick. The business owner is not in charge of his or her business, the government is. Who pays the costs? The owner and employees. Not the government.

Defy an irrational and unnecessary government edict. Stay open.


26 posted on 03/15/2020 5:32:20 PM PDT by Tudorfly (All things are possible within the will of God.)
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To: bigbob

The next “crisis” will be a shortage of styrofoam takeout containers....


27 posted on 03/15/2020 5:34:00 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: bigbob

As though zoning and permitting would allow that.


28 posted on 03/15/2020 5:35:57 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc O'Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: david1292

https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/experimental-coronavirus-drug-brings-woman-back-from-brink-of-death-c-745656

Link to experimental vaccine that apparently has already saved
a life.

I simply offered a guess why these policies are being implemented.
Certainly not endorsing these policies. Or their long term effects on
our country.


29 posted on 03/15/2020 5:36:07 PM PDT by tennmountainman (eThe Liberals Are Baby Killers)
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To: david1292

“Here Lies the State of Ohio. Cause of Death: Competitive Virtue Signaling”. RIP.


30 posted on 03/15/2020 5:37:37 PM PDT by motor_racer (If you don't read the news, you are uninformed. If you read the news, you are misinformed.)
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To: tennmountainman

tennmountainman wrote:


https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/experimental-coronavirus-drug-brings-woman-back-from-brink-of-death-c-745656

Link to experimental vaccine that apparently has already saved
a life.

I simply offered a guess why these policies are being implemented.
Certainly not endorsing these policies. Or their long term effects on
our country.”

The medicine is Remdesivir; being made available to our military:

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/03/10/army-signs-agreement-with-drug-giant-gilead-on-experimental-covid-19-treatment/?utm_expid=.dI5pu9xDQ5yC0HSsOtrcsw.0&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F


31 posted on 03/15/2020 5:50:40 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: xenia
A friend of mine who is a waitress is out of work as of 9 pm tonight. This will be very hard on her.

My daughter just lost her part-time second job at a party center. She’ll be ok, but it’ll hurt a bit.
32 posted on 03/15/2020 6:06:20 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: david1292
" DeWine then stressed the critical need for social distancing especially with one of the year's biggest bar days - St. Patrick's Day - coming up Tuesday, March 17.

Yes, one of the biggest beer drinking weeks of the year.

Bars and restaurants would have been filled on Tuesday and all weekend with once a year Irish.

These bar and restaurants will have already purchased or ordered their beer for next week.

Breweries will have already made the beer.

Draft beer has a relatively short shelf life. It will not keep for a month and breweries will not have the extra cooler space to store this beer for a month.

The Microbreweries will be especially hit because most of them do not have bottling facilities to can or bottle the beer that they made for this coming week’s festivities.

I suspect some brewpubs and micro-breweries will not survive this political pestilence.

33 posted on 03/15/2020 6:09:07 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: tennmountainman

It is now a race between a vaccine and the left raping our liberty.


34 posted on 03/15/2020 6:10:13 PM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: Pontiac

Wife said they are doing booze buybacks for alcohol based businesses.


35 posted on 03/15/2020 6:11:47 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: david1292
I have adapted this from a lecture I attended this week to add some perspective.

COVID-19 rarely seems to cause typical “common cold” symptoms such as a runny nose, sneezing, or sore throat (these have been observed in about 5% of patients.)

It is impossible to know if a patient has the flu or the COVID-19 virus according to symptoms alone.

80.9% of cases are mild and can recover at home.
13.8% are severe, developing severe diseases including pneumonia and shortness of breath.
4.7% are critical and can include: respiratory failure, septic shock, and multi-organ failure.
About 2% of reported cases of the virus have been fatal.

It is interesting to look at Fatality Rate vs. Age (keep in mind these can change.)
Fatality Rate all cases
80+ years old 14.8%
70 – 79 years old 8.0%
60 – 69 years old 3.6%
50 – 59 years old 1.3%
40 – 49 years old 0.4%
30 – 39 years old 0.2%
20 – 29 years old 0.2%
10 – 19 years old 0.2%
0 – 9 years old no fatalities
Very few cases of COVID-19 have been diagnosed in children.

36 posted on 03/15/2020 6:17:54 PM PDT by PsyCon
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To: mmichaels1970
Wife said they are doing booze buybacks for alcohol based businesses.

Who? State liquor stores? Big Beer companies?

Either of those will not help brewpubs or microbreweries. They are stuck with stock that will be going down the drain. Not that many people will be filling their growlers for St. Patrick’s Day.

37 posted on 03/15/2020 6:21:23 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: david1292

With all this going on, it would
be a perfect time to implement the
“Green New Deal”. No cars moving
people to their jobs, no trucks
delivering food, no planes flying.
All this fear mongering is going
to be devastating to our economy.
These idiot Govenors are doing
this to bring down our president.


38 posted on 03/15/2020 6:32:08 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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To: madison10

Because he’s trying to stop the spread. Just because there’s not confirmed cases yet does not mean there won’t be. The goal here is to flatten the curve of the disease spread so that the health system isn’t overwhelmed.

Our medical system is set up to deal with Flu viruses that have .1% mortality rate, not a 3.4%. Plus this thing spreads easier and more widely, because people can walk around with it for longer and not show symptoms, than the flu we deal with every year.

So if the health care system gets overwhelmed that everyone having the normal daily strokes, heart attacks, serious car crashes, etc. are going to be less likely to survive because there are not enough ICU beds.

All of these actions are prudent and should have been implemented when we determine how virulent this strain of flu was.


39 posted on 03/15/2020 6:33:14 PM PDT by OIFVeteran ( "Liberty and Union, now and forever, one and inseparable!" Daniel Webster)
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To: Pontiac
Na. I’d guess micro brewers are probably screwed. The buyback is for liquor purchased in the last 30 days. They did say they were working on other mitigation programs. But haven’t specified.

link
40 posted on 03/15/2020 6:36:01 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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