Posted on 03/15/2020 9:49:28 AM PDT by Mariner
Thread #16 is below and it ran for two days...
http://freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3824270/posts?page=2051
CALIFORNIA - San Bernadino, 29 Palms
4 marines test negative at 29 Palms - testing continues
San Bernadino sees it’s first case, a 53yo woman who presented with symptoms at Kaiser Fontana
Well here’s a switch! MEXICO considering closing of border with US!
SKI RESORTS CLOSURE
Link only:
Dozens of U.S. ski resorts close for coronavirus: ‘The slopes will still be there when this is all over’
Here is the latest information coming from Seattle:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1239290389963714562.html
I’ve been in touch with an intensivist at a Seattle hospital with one of the highest numbers of COVID-19 admissions in the US.
They’ve been too exhausted to post much themselves, so I am conveying some of what I’ve been told, which is… eye-opening. To say the least. /1
The Seattle situation isn’t quite at Lombardy levels yet… but it’s getting there.
First of all regarding the clinicians. None are sleeping more than a couple hrs a night. Everyone is utterly exhausted. My colleague has seen so many people die as to have become totally numb. /2
It’s also nearing Status Lombardosus with regard to resources. They haven’t run out of ventilators (yet), but every single ICU bed in Seattle metro is full. And the onslaught shows no signs of stopping. They’ve run out of other things as well. /3
My colleague saw a patient who had a half-full syringe left attached to her IV line. The syringe had an antibiotic. First thought was that this was some gross nursing error.
It turned out not to be a mistake at all, but rather an accomodation to dire circumstances. /4
It was a drug that was supposed to be infused over hours. But there were no IV pumps available. So the nurse had given some of it, left the syringe attached, and planned to come by to give more a little later, and then finish it.
Here in the wealthiest country in the world. /5
They are also at the point of having to ration some kinds of care. For the most severely ill patients, there’s a machine called ECMO — extracorporeal membrane oxygenation — which is basically like an external lung that oxygenates blood when the patient’s lungs won’t work. /6
Seattle has 12 machines, which is less than what’s needed. So a central committee there is deciding: you can’t go on ECMO if you’re >40 yrs old, if you have another organ system failing, or… incredibly… if your BMI is>25. Turns out these are all major poor prognostic signs. /7
(Note: that doesn’t mean that anybody with a BMI >25 is in trouble if they get COVID. Just that if you’re critically ill from it, that is apparently a poor prognostic marker. Not sure anybody has a clear idea why.) /8
Meanwhile the combo of exhausted health care workers & no open ICU beds has made a very hazardous health situation for the entire region. If you have a stroke, a heart attack, etc., it will be hard to get the best care. There are patients in ERs for hours waiting for ICU beds. /9
My colleague told me something else remarkable: COVID patients are not dying of lung disease.
This seems to be a very distinct syndrome, and in severe cases the pneumonia leads to ARDS, a condition in which the lungs leak fluid & the patient can’t breathe w/out a ventilator. /10
But apparently the ARDS is not too severe, and they can manage people through that part of it.
Instead, after several days, the virus suddenly attacks the heart, causing it to precipitously fail. The myocarditis phase is savage and kills people within a day or two. /11
My colleague has seen a number of cases in which multiple family members were in the hospital and critically ill. Maybe this means there’s some genetic predisposition, but it’s probably too soon to say. /12
And then there’s the fear that comes with an epidemic. Apparently people shopping wearing the hospital’s logo on their clothing have been asked to leave the store. And some who work in the hospital have been asked to move out of their apartment buildings for a few months. /13
Restaurants have refused food delivery, with some of them refusing to even leave the food on the ground outside. The hospital had to send the medics to go pick it up. One doc’s housekeeper refused to come clean for her. /14
In short, this is a nightmare, teetering on the precipice of even worse destruction. The goal of every American city should be to avoid becoming the next Seattle.
Everyone needs to understand not just how bad this could get, but HOW BAD THIS ALREADY IS in one major US city. /15x
P.S. This isn’t my first hand info.
Obviously the colleague who told me this has no reason to make stuff up. But on basic journalistic principles I would welcome anyone who can corroborate this picture.
so this is the week (or two) that we watch everyone fall out that isn’t isolating. And once the non-isolators have self-selected for a Darwin experiment, we know which groups we can fraternize with - those that have been isolating for two weeks. Is that the gist of it?
“ I really feel for those with severe anxiety, hypochondria, and/or depression. This is probably sending many into that abyss”
“I think we are going to see some really odd, and violent, behavior out of people as some lose their marbles.”
Actually, for some of us who have been treated for anxiety and depression all along, this isn’t much worse than normal. It is just making real things we have imagined along the way. The people you have to watch out for are the ones who have lived an easy life, like a snowboard headed downhill after a powder snow, who have never experienced adversity or frustration. They are the ones who will break, psychotic style.
Ohio:
Regional dairy trucker leaves for his nighttime run.
Services regional grocery chains and Walmart. Walmart to open in the morning.
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Thank you for posting- the deniers need to read that.
I receive my inhalers mail-order several days transit from Canada x 3 years and never had an issue with discharged inhalers. I know what time the postman delivers. I’m sure rx delivered from your local pharm will be just as fine. In fact, they are encouraging mail order right now so you don’t go to the pharmacy.
Harrd to believe...
But interesting.
thank you for the update from Ground Zero.
Savage indeed.
“Who ever thinks this is going to get America down, this is like our damned competitive edge right here! Morbid obesity is our wheelhouse!!”
https://twitter.com/BaldingsWorld/status/1239385020369793025
RE:1005 I post this from the author of the thread. Please make of it what you will.
Scott Mintzer Brain
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I had to delete the thread I Tweeted earlier today because of concerns about both the amount of attention is was getting and the accuracy of some of the information.
The common theme: don’t spread things that shouldn’t be spread. And be responsible for, and to, everyone else.
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Meanwhile, please take this seriously or we’ll wind up with a maxed-out medical system like Lombardy.
And I hope everybody supports their local newspapers and other media. Because otherwise there won’t be any local media. And no actual journalists to get us local stories.
TEXAS - Military - Tricare/Vets/Active Duty San Antonio
exerpts:
SAN ANTONIO – The San Antonio Military Health System will be placing triage tents outside local military medical facilities to safely screen military members for COVID-19.
The triage tents will be placed outside of Brooke Army Medical Center, Wilford Hall Ambulatory Surgical Center, Randolph Clinic and Reid Clinic, SAMHS officials said Sunday.
BAMC is temporarily delaying elective surgeries as well in an effort to help limit the spread of the coronavirus, according to health officials.
Officials are also recommending that TRICARE beneficiaries consider calling in before coming in, as an added precaution. Healthcare professionals will then help the patient determine if self-care if the best option or if they should seek further treatment.
Beneficiaries can also contact the Consult Appointment Management Office at 210-916-9900, where they can arrange an in-person or a virtual appointment, health officials say.
“… nobody stays home and sits on the couch better than the goddamn United States of America”
So funny!https://twitter.com/PabloTorre/status/1239040553649651713
I live in AZ. It gets up to 115 degrees here in summer. Down the road, it gets up to 125 in the summer.
That stuff can not be out in the hot air.
We are not exactly in the same position because we have not reached the closing down of events and health care system collapse in the same order they did.
Some of the things we are doing now, they didn’t do until their health care system was on the verge of collapse.
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