Coronavirus Live Thread. No. 9.

3/3/2020

[Vermont Lt]

Continuation of the thread.

No 8 here.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3821104/posts?q=1&;page=1004#1004

[PA Engineer]

Their direct reports probably were gone by the late 60’s/early 70’s.

Before then, every public health official had epidemic/pandemic knowledge with a ‘scary microbe’.

I hadn't considered that. My grandmother ended up in an orphanage. The 1918 flu was particularly brutal in Pittsburgh and she told us many stories.

[Jane Long]

😂 😂...thanks.

[metmom]

Thanks for the threads.

It’s great to be able to find everything in one place instead of being inundated with a new thread every time some new piece of information comes up.

This way it saves bandwidth and and makes it much easier to keep track of. It’s not so overwhelming.

[RightGeek]

Instapundit Update - Evening 3/3/2020 - https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/360268/

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UPDATE: A reader emails:

With respect to the dire predictions of experts on the Coronavirus, below, for perspective, is an article I had saved from The New York Times on the Ebola eruption in Africa in 2014-2015. The fact is that the dire warnings of the “experts” were wrong by a factor of over 50x. Yowza!

I send this along as it may be of interest to you. And, BTW, you and your team do a tip-top job in everything you touch.

Thanks! Here’s the article. Excerpt:

Experts are trying to understand how the disease, which has defied the ominous predictions of the world’s top infectious disease researchers, appears to be extinguishing itself with surprising swiftness. In September, the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had projected that, by Jan. 20, the outbreak could reach 1.4 million cases in Liberia and Sierra Leone alone, but by that date only 21,797 were recorded in all three countries.

While many have emphasized the enormous assistance hauled into the region by the United States and international organizations, there is strong evidence, especially here in Monrovia, that the biggest change came from the precautions taken by residents themselves.

“Fundamentally, this is about the extent to which societies change their behaviors, how they change them, and the speed at which they change them,” said Dr. David Nabarro, the United Nations special envoy on Ebola, who made frequent trips to the hot zone at the height of the epidemic. “I believe for various reasons people in Liberia changed quickly and dramatically. I believe Sierra Leoneans changed quickly in some areas and less quickly in some areas.”

When Ebola struck the densely crowded neighborhoods of Monrovia over the summer, the first time a capital city had faced Ebola’s full onslaught, the impact was devastating. Hundreds of new cases appeared around the country every week, hospitals collapsed or overflowed with patients, and sick people lay along the road, sometimes dying before help could reach them.

Reeling from the explosion of infections in August, volunteer Ebola watchdog groups sprang up in many neighborhoods, typically overseen by local elders and led by educated youths, drawing from a long history of community organizing to survive war, poverty and government neglect.

With little or no outside help in the early months, the groups educated their communities about Ebola, a disease new to this part of Africa, and collected money to set up hand-washing stations at key spots. They kept records of the sick and the dead. Many also placed households under quarantine and restricted visits by outsiders. As the sick were turned away at the gates of treatment centers because of a lack of beds, people inside homes began protecting themselves better, covering their arms in plastic shopping bags as they cared for ailing relatives. The gear became known as Liberian P.P.E.’s, or personal protective equipment, a reference to the more impermeable suits worn by health workers.

By mid-October, new cases in Liberia had dropped precipitously, to dozens from hundreds per week. A few clinics run by Liberians and international charities had opened, but the drop took place a solid month before any of the treatment centers built by the American military had even begun accepting patients.

Let’s hope we see a similar fizzle for this coronavirus, which isn’t nearly as bad as Ebola, but still bad enough.

ANOTHER UPDATE: Seen on Facebook:

[TermLimits4All]

I appreciate you posting this thread. It provides a ton of info daily.

You just have to learn to scroll past the trolls. They thrive on conflict. They itch for any reason to insert their opinion on many of the most active threads without any thoughtful input.
They could just scroll past the thread altogether but it’s too tempting to attempt to anger another poster.
Maybe they’ll learn somehow or we all, those interested in the thread ignore and report instead of fueling their diatribe.

[ncalburt]

A gross topic .

[DEPcom]

I heard some stories about how my Great Grandfather /Grand Mother had to raise all his nieces and nephews on a farm due to 1918 flu.

I think I will make sure I pass that down the newest generation so the story is never forgot.

[9YearLurker]

We need to do more, but our opportunity to stop it outright has clearly passed. Even if the CDC hadn’t for whatever reason held back on the tests, without devastating here people would have been clamoring for their holidays abroad and then brought it home anyway.

[metmom]

It takes some practice to learn to ignore the trolls and even then, you’ll sometimes slip up.

The thing I have found helpful is to PM someone else and vent a little, get it off your chest, and then get on with ignoring the trolls.

[Black Agnes]

But necessary.

Something that if not taken care of properly can doom any long term public health measures.

[metmom]

You should write all that stuff down.

Word of mouth is not really reliable and some old family accounts are fascinating.

[metmom]

I don’t see any realistic way it could have been kept out of the country, especially in light of selfish idiots like that female in NH who KNEW she was infected and instead of staying quarantined, went out to a social event anyways.

[EarlyBird]

Yeah, I was glad it was warm down here today.

I opened all of my windows and did my last store visit. I went to Ace Hardware to get replacement AC filters.

I got the expensive 3M filters. Don’t want a cruise-ship viral load going on here!

Now if I can just figure out how to make face masks out of the 3M AC filters, I’ll be all set!

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Thank you for these threads. Do not feed the troll.

[ncalburt]

Yes we missed containment like Singapore or Taiwan .We are not a united country anymore with one identity like them .
Those Americans have died out .
We are a society of selfish greedy takers now with a lefty media hell bent on destruction .
Pray the virus burns itself out since our govt wont act in time.

[RightGeek]

[DEPcom]

I will have to do that. I have another relative who wrote a book back in 1930s about the origins of our family all the way to England and Scotland. I will add another volume starting where he left off.

[DEPcom]

I wonder if this means new leadership in Iran. I think China CCP is in danger too.

[thecodont]

It’s in Berkeley, CA now.

https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/Berkeley-reports-first-case-of-coronavirus-15102809.php

[LilFarmer]

I don’t think the goal of travel restrictions is to keep the virus out of an area, just to slow it’s spread. Slowing it even a week or two could buy time for preparation, to processes and plans nailed down, how to handle outbreaks so you don’t end up with sick first responders and healthcare workers.

Any slowing helps the healthcare systems.

We bought some time when we stopped planes flying from Wuhan but needed to keep expanding it to endemic areas. It’s not something you can do halfway if you want it to work.