Corona Virus is a Pandemic

YouTube ^ | February 25, 2020 | Dr. Mike Hansen

[SmokingJoe]

Coronavirus is a pandemic? Nonsense!
legit doctor? so what?

[Wayne07]

Meanwhile the CDC estimates between 16,000 and 41,000 deaths in the U.S. this winter from the flu between Oct 1st and Feb. 15th. Why is the Corona Virus so scary?

1. As contagious or more than the flu
2. 20x higher fatality rate than the flu
3. No vaccine available
4. New virus, so no one has immunity

Maybe it won't be bad, but the reason it won't be bad is that it is prevented from spreading in the US. If it spreads in the US like the flu, more people will die than from the flu.

[Trump Girl Kit Cat]

I don’t believe a word of this article!!!

[SmokingJoe]

You forgot to add we only have 15 cases in the US.and 8 of them are already recovering and will be home soon.
Why on earth are you trying to instigate mass hysteria chaos and confusion for no reason? Do you work for Sanders or the deep state

[TigersEye]

As contagious or more than the flu - 20x higher fatality rate than the flu

I haven't seen anything to make me believe either of those claims. JMO but that's the way I see it as of now.

[steve86]

You don’t seem like the same SmokinJoe I recall from the bird flu threads. What’s up with that?

[Wayne07]

Do you work for Russia? Because underplaying this only helps Democrats. Trust your eyes, and look at what happened in China. Ignoring and denying is what got them in trouble. A strong response, like closing borders is a win-win. If nothing happens, take credit. If a pandemic happens, you did your best. Action is strong, denial is weak.

[Wayne07]

There are literally dozens of studies and analyses that suggest the case fatality rate is at least 2%, and if the Chinese are lying, it could be higher.

Study of 72,000 COVID-19 patients finds 2.3% death rate

Even the WHO which is bought off by China and is downplaying the virus is using those numbers.

Aylward said that across China, about 80% of cases are mild, about 14% are severe, and about 6% become critically ill. The case fatality rate — the percentage of known infected people who die — is between 2% and 4% in Hubei province, and 0.7% in other parts of China, he said. The lower rate outside of Hubei is likely due to the draconian social distancing measures China has put in place to try to slow spread of the virus. Other parts of China have not had the huge explosion of cases seen in Hubei, Aylward said.

https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/25/new-data-from-china-buttress-fears-about-high-coronavirus-fatality-rate-who-expert-says/

Note that the fatality rate is lower when you take draconian action. So that's what we need to be ready to do. Pretending it isn't a big deal is what screwed China in the beginning. We can't make that mistake.

[SmokingJoe]

Underplaying what?
Exactly where is this pandemic at in the US?
Where are people dropping dead at?
Where has the death rate shot up in the US?

Russia huh? Don't make me laugh!
is that all you jokers can come up with?
Accuse President Trump and everyone who supports him with your “Russia” nonsense?
Go spread your garbage elsewhere.

[SmokingJoe]

Did you even watch President Trump"s press conference last night at all?

[TigersEye]

Pretending it isn't a big deal is what screwed China in the beginning. We can't make that mistake.

I wasn't suggesting that we do.

[SmokingJoe]

Different guy. Similar monikers.

[Wayne07]

I watched his press conference and thought it was OK. But terrible luck that literally an hour after he says there will be zero new cases, we get the first case in California that isn’t connected directly to China. Not a fan of Pence being in charge either. Also, Chad Wolf, head of homeland security made a total fool of himself in front of Congress, so overall not doing great.

[Wayne07]

I’m not saying you aren’t taking it seriously, I’m saying that most of the country isn’t taking it seriously, and the government has botched the response so far. The biggest screw up being the CDC sending out defective test kits, and still not being able to start community testing even thou we are a good 6-8 weeks into this.

[steve86]

Ok, you’re right. He last posted 2017.

[SmokingJoe]

One thing President Trump did NOT say is that there will be zero new cases. I watched it twice.
He was asked if it was inevitable there will be a pandemic. He said no.
As for that one "new" case in California and its timing, I will let you figure out what all that was about.

[TigersEye]

I’m saying that most of the country isn’t taking it seriously, and the government has botched the response so far.

I'm glad you're in a position to assess that. I'm not.

Here is an American in Wuhan who seems to be taking things in stride and believes the Chinese government has done a pretty good job. He is obviously just a lay person though.

OANN - After Hours: Jacob Dominguez (Life in Wuhan) (youtube video 7:05)

[Wayne07]

What he said specifically was, “We could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. So we’ve had very good luck.” Which is fine, but bad luck given the new case, which is the first community transmission, and almost certainly will lead to others getting sick at the first hospital where the didn’t know what he had.

[Drago]

As for YouTube docs talking about “COVID-19”, this one is level-headed too:

https://www.youtube.com/user/Campbellteaching/videos

[ProtectOurFreedom]

He seems highly credible. Thanks for posting.

Of note was the possibility that ACE-2 Inhibitors (BP meds) may reduce COVID infection rates. I’m taking one of the two he mentioned, Losartan.