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To: StoneRainbow68
Yep.

I have always maintained that the stupidest move of the war was Hitler declaring war on the US.

There was a really good chance that the US would have ignored Europe and concentrated on beating Japan to a bloody pulp. Which would not have been easy. We would have hit the main islands of Japan before the Atomic Bombs would have been ready and it would have been a meat grinder. We would have won but we would have taken horrendous losses.

By that time the Nazi's would have had time to take the UK. We would no longer be sending them supplies because we needed them for our own war.

And no, there was no pact that said Germany had to declare war on us. You might notice that Japan never declared war on the USSR.

49 posted on 02/12/2020 1:58:23 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (A hero is a hero no matter what medal they give him. Likewise a schmuck is still a schmuck.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

And no, there was no pact that said Germany had to declare war on us.


Hitler was loyal to his allies—well, except for the USSR. He came to Italy’s rescue in the Balkans and North Africa and he declared war on the US within a few days of Pearl Harbor. Yes, we were actively messing with Germany’s U-Boat actions, but like Japan’s attacking us, Hitler declaring war on us was stupid.


50 posted on 02/12/2020 2:04:53 PM PST by hanamizu
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

—By that time the Nazi’s would have had time to take the UK. We would no longer be sending them supplies because we needed them for our own war.-—

Hanson’s book and his YouTube lectures related to it have a lot to say about that.

What’s amazing is that we were like two countries, the east and west coasts basically fighting a two-front war at the same time. Our industrial output was incredible, and once it got going there was no way we were going to lose that war to anyone. The Nazis and Japanese had no capability to hit our industrial centers in any way.

Goering even asked Hitler, “Mein Fuhrer, how will we hit Detroit?” He had no idea and no way to do it. The Germans didn’t even have the amphibious capability to successfully invade England. Their surface fleet was crap. They had no carriers and no 4-engine bombers.

Winston wasn’t letting Gerry on his island, and we never would have stopped helping the British. We were more than capable of doing multiple things at once.


52 posted on 02/12/2020 2:06:06 PM PST by StoneRainbow68
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Hitler lost the war when he invaded the USSR. He did not have the resources to fight a 2 front war.


101 posted on 02/15/2020 10:45:11 AM PST by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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