Lawrence.
Posted on 02/02/2020 10:33:28 PM PST by nickcarraway
Number one reason: DEBT.
Sure, Just like all of those other highly advanced social and economic muslim countries.. Horse feathers.!!
The turning point was when the Cossacks
defeated the Hassocks
Lawrence.
The destruction of the Ottoman empire, regardless of the reasons, is a good result for the rest of the world.
JoMa
“Homogenous societies democratize more easily than heterogenous ones.”
...so do ones that aren’t dominated by Islam and Sharia Law.
That’s no small omission - to discuss the decline of the Ottoman Empire and not even question this is willful ignorance.
Reason #1: Islamists apply 6th century reasoning to 20th century problems.
Reason #2-6: See reason #1.
Yep, 19 and 20 century technology and communications eliminated the concept of castle sieges, multi-century wars with armies trudging overland, mountains as barriers that would keep an enemy out etc.
It's not that old time wars were not brutal, they were, but telephones and airplanes changed the entire concept of warfare.
The once safe castle on top of the hill, became an easy target, not a safe place for the king.
It was already known as the sick man of Europe.
Yes it would.
Essentially the Ottoman empire was kept alive from the early 1800s onwards by the British and the French.
They didn’t want the Austrians or the Russians to grab hold of the empire, so they kept it alive artificially. Go no further than the Crimean war of the 1850s to see this
Nearly half the empire’s population were Christians in 1810. They were dhimmis then, but by 1840 they were given nearly equal rights, under pressure from Russia, France and the UK (the latter two of whom kept the empire artificially alive.)
Even in the Arab world, places like Syria and iraq were 25% to 30% Christian
Ibn Schiff?
The Islamic Roman Empire. At its greatest extent it encompassed all the Roman territory except for Italy and Spain.
America is failing....
Let those words roll around in your mind for a moment and think what this poster is saying. Best economy in the world and leading not following, and they say we are failing
Care to illuminate us with examples ....Comrade?
When it was expanding, the Ottoman Empire had a superior military and conquered more and more territory until it reached a sort of natural limit--it failed to conquer Persia and failed twice to capture Vienna. Hungary was about as far as they could control with pre-modern logistics.
They became complacent and stagnant and the Christians found their rule oppressive. In the 19th century the Christian nationalities of the Balkans slowly threw off the Turkish yoke until by 1912 all the Turks had left was the area near Constantinople which they still have. They lost the Arab countries because of WWI.
In the 19th century there were attempts to replace the traditional Islamic system with one with equal rights for everyone who would then have an Ottoman identity. The Muslims didn't like it, the Christians wanted freedom rather than an Ottoman identity, and the reforms were slow to be actually implemented.
Islam has not built a single modern and successful society outside of a few tiny nations with a lot of oil in the ground, and as successful as those few tiny nations are they are riddled with internal strife and division held in check only due to their form of governance - dictators.
Bismarck was brilliant. It’s too bad he wasn’t around in 1914. I doubt he would have allowed WWI to happen.
He was intensely disliked by KWII, and in his bitterness refused to explain to the no-doubt-qualified younger foreign policy mavens his treaty system, which had kept the peace in Europe for almost 30 years by the time of his death -- a treaty system that was his alone.
KWII was a damn fool, which became apparent to the people of Germany when it as far too late.
thanx I am currently watching Ottoman series on Netflix dramatized version
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