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To: Melian

Look at the drone panoramic footage. Some houses are completely burned to the ground. Others next door are completely intact. Trees next to burnt houses are just fine.


1,072 posted on 02/03/2020 4:58:33 AM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: generally

Look at the drone panoramic footage. Some houses are completely burned to the ground. Others next door are completely intact. Trees next to burnt houses are just fine.
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I used to live in CA, and have seen fires, some up close. Never seen this result before. Almost as if the houses were hyper-combustible and then the fire stopped. Very strange.


1,079 posted on 02/03/2020 5:20:23 AM PST by StormFlag (‘the harder the conflict, the greater the triumph.’ George Washington. WWG1WGA)
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To: generally

I looked at the map but their javascript seems to skew the images so I couldn’t pick up what you were looking at / for - but if/as that’s it, I can tell you from experience growing up in the foothills near Los Angeles and watching canyons go up i flames, it’s a screwy thing - just like how tornadoes can hit one home and spare another, after the fires go through it’s amazing how one house can be saved and another not - however, even so/still, the houses that remain are pretty much devastated and the most peculiar example of that was the fire in Scripps Ranch near San Diego about 10 years ago - there was a lot of this phenomenon ... but when people with homes spared returned they found they were so smoke damaged they were unlivable. WWG1WGA :)


1,094 posted on 02/03/2020 6:58:58 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: generally

Re drones/fire:

Thank you for explaining that.


1,175 posted on 02/03/2020 11:48:36 AM PST by Melian ( Check yourself before you KeK yourself. ~ Melian)
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To: generally; Melian
Look at the drone panoramic footage. Some houses are completely burned to the ground. Others next door are completely intact. Trees next to burnt houses are just fine.

Possible explanation: the hottest part of a fire (the house) would be sucking the oxygen from the surrounding area.

Fire requires heat, fuel, and oxygen. In some fires, the updrafts suck in enough air to create hurricane force winds. Hot embers can get blown upward, then outward, then fall on areas outside the main flow of winds. Then if the house burns first, it would take in the surrounding oxygen, sparing other trees and outbuildings.

I wonder if any of the houses had cedar shake roofing.

1,200 posted on 02/03/2020 1:24:15 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: generally

Super high wind. I saw a detached wooden garage with leaves in gutter barely singed while main burned to dust. Accompanying vineyard had all the vines still attached to the wire, but the bases at the ground were burned through like you took a plasma torch to them (uncut dry grasses in the rows.)

Across street a stone house burned to shell, and adjacent 1/2 finished wood frame was untouched. Apparently an intact home with older roof/attic ventilation would “suck” embers in where it was calm enough to get fire established, then as soon as it burned through to exterior wind the whole structure would be consumed in minutes.

Some really BS radical code changed are being considered in the aftermath of this, up to eliminating wood from building (disaster in the making there economically). Modifying roof ventilation and enforcing defensible space clearing would have prevented or vastly ameliorated a lot of these fires effects.


1,203 posted on 02/03/2020 1:49:51 PM PST by Axenolith (WWG1WGA!)
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To: Melian; generally
I did some analytical elaboration on those drone images in #1106

I also posted on how to observe one of the worst-hit areas ("Paradise") using Google Earth -- in my #1136...

Hope you find them to be helpful!

TXnMA
  

1,211 posted on 02/03/2020 2:29:32 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's alias | "Islam": Allah's useful idiots | Brennan & 0b0z0: Islam's useful idiots)
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To: generally

I just wanted other FReeQs to look for themselves and see if they saw what I saw.

Sometimes I need someone to just tell me stuff because I can’t see it, but sometimes I find it better to look for myself instead of being biased by what someone else says I should be seeing. It’s easy to see what you’re “supposed” to see.


1,259 posted on 02/03/2020 4:55:45 PM PST by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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