Posted on 01/25/2020 7:15:34 PM PST by BenLurkin
Someone over there knows something our media are not telling us. This must be really bad.
Meanwhile:
Nurse claims 90,000 infected;
Hospitals report: “sea of bodies”;
Hospitals report: no room for new patients;
PLA remains deployed, some in L4 Hazmat suits;
Medicine which may help remains at 2X daily pay average;
56,000,000-58,000,000 people quarantined;
5% of China’s economic output shut down;
R0 of 219-ncov is 1.4-2.5 as of 2 days ago.
To some here this is either fake or no big deal
R0 now at 3.8
An R0=3.8 means that it exceeds SARS’s modest 0.49 viral attack rate by 7.75x - almost 8 fold! A virus that spreads 8 faster than SARS ... Even if overestimated R0, it is still the worst seen in history.
The typical R0 attack rate for the seasonal flu is around R0=1.28. The 2009 flu pandemic R0=1.48. The 1918 Spanish Flu 1.8. Infected 500,000,000 The 1.8 level killed 50,000,000-100,000,000 people, 675,000 in the US.
Only 5% of Wusan infections identified - lending credence to the 90,000 infections report
Can be contagious with NO symptoms showing. No fever often reported when infection identified, can spread through eyes (goggles needed), removing ear wax leaves infection channel.
Actually it spreads far easier then Ebola. It doesn’t have Ebolas rate of lethality.
On one hand, it’s a brilliant slap on their enemy, China.
On the other, it’s not so good for the Chinese people.
The normal, off the drug store shelf, is sufficient. I think it's three percent.
" Hydrogen peroxide, like many household chemicals, can expire."
"If you've ever poured hydrogen peroxide solution onto a cut and didn't experience the expected fizz, it's likely your bottle of hydrogen peroxide has become a bottle of plain water. The 3-percent hydrogen peroxide solution you can buy for use as a disinfectant typically has a shelf life of at least a year and up to three years if the bottle is unopened."
"Once you break the seal, the hydrogen peroxide will last 30 to 45 days at peak effectiveness, with about six months of useful activity. As soon as you expose the peroxide solution to air, it starts to react to form water. Also, if you contaminate the bottle—such as by dipping a swab or finger into it—you can expect the effectiveness of the remaining liquid to be compromised. "
Do you mean, 70% isoprophyl alcohol? If so, yes.
Answer
First of all, viruses are not 'alive' as such, unlike bacteria. 70% denatured alcohol will reduce the potency of most viruses if left in contact for a few seconds but will not completely 'kill' the virus. Using alcohol washes and hand rubs are beneficial in reducing virus contamination.
See http://microbiology.suite101.com/article.cfm/alcohol_based_hand_cleansers for a more complete answer.
Buy your stock in 3M ASAP.
N95 manufacturing about to go through the ROOF !!!
Bad news all around... but unlike Ebola, at least it seems curable, correct?
What’s the death toll up to?
If the masks are made in China, how do we know the virus won’t be on the masks?
Actually I did make hand sanitizer from Everclear, which is 95% alcohol. I found the recipe in a book called A Cure for All Cancers. I think I remember putting lemon peel in it. It was 13 years ago when my husband was in hospice at home.
17 last night
Sounds low. If the ChiComs are in such a visible panic about it, it’s got to be a hell of a lot higher.
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