I think folks are concentrating on the wrong things about this interview which was quite enlightening.
Graham got frustrated at one point and said, “Are you paying attention? He’s holding aide from everything he can, all of the time! He’s cut foreign aide 21% and he genuinely thinks the US is being taken for a ride.!”
Graham disagrees with Trump on this, but finds that Trump’s policy toward the Ukraine is consistent with his world view.. and everything he has said before or since.
Your word is good enough for me. I like that he defends and supports Trump, at least verbally, pretty often.
biden is in no sense of the word a good man.
But that’s politics.