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The medications that change who we are
BBC News ^ | January 8, 2020 | Zaria Gorvett

Posted on 01/09/2020 12:23:08 PM PST by ConservativeMind

“Patient Five” was in his late 50s when a trip to the doctors changed his life.

He had diabetes, and he had signed up for a study to see if taking a “statin” – a kind of cholesterol-lowering drug – might help. So far, so normal.

But soon after he began the treatment, his wife began to notice a sinister transformation. A previously reasonable man, he became explosively angry and – out of nowhere – developed a tendency for road rage. During one memorable episode, he warned his family to keep away, lest he put them in hospital.

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Alarmed, the couple turned to the study’s organisers. “They were very hostile. They said that the two couldn’t possibly be related, that he needed to keep taking the medication, and that he should stay in the study,” says Golomb.

Ironically, by this point the patient was so cantankerous that he flatly ignored the doctors’ advice. “He swore roundly, stormed out of the office and stopped taking the drug immediately,” she says. Two weeks later, he had his personality back.

Others have not been so lucky. Over the years, Golomb has collected reports from patients across the United States – tales of broken marriages, destroyed careers, and a surprising number of men who have come unnervingly close to murdering their wives. In almost every case, the symptoms began when they started taking statins, then promptly returned to normal when they stopped; one man repeated this cycle five times before he realised what was going on.

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: drugs; medications; medicine; okeydokertroll; statins
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To: imardmd1

I don’t think SSRI are the same as benzodiazepines. The act differently on the brain. benzodiazepines Are like Valium or Xanax. SSRI are different group targeting different brain mechanisms.

I’m no doctor or pharmacist.


41 posted on 01/09/2020 2:27:14 PM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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To: I want the USA back

“Hey, doctors, the patient is not stupid!”

Well, statistically speaking, a little under half of them can rightly be called that.


42 posted on 01/09/2020 2:37:28 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: Okeydoker

I have been taking 20 mg Of Lipitor for at least 40 years daily at bedtime. The only thing the statin has done, for me, is to keep my cholesterol levels in good shape. My family has a history of heart disease and many heart caused deaths. I will not buy into this article and there have been others like it over the years. I can remember discussing this topic before, here, on free republic.


43 posted on 01/09/2020 2:59:35 PM PST by V V Camp Enari 67-68 (Viet Vet)
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To: Okeydoker

“Stupid nonsense not worth my time.”

I actually envy your position. There is a drug available for everything nowadays, just view some TV or Internet advertising if you don’t believe it. If I was like you I would trust new pills to solve all of my (many) problems with confidence that my “doctors” and government are carefully monitoring everything for me. Must be nice.


44 posted on 01/09/2020 3:09:37 PM PST by NYAmerican
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To: ConservativeMind

I’ve sworn off statins as they almost made me lose my feet to nerve damage. Took them 5 years with no idea that could be the cause of neuropathy in my feet. Had days I could hardly walk. Two weeks after quitting them my feet improved remarkably. Some permanent damage already done but its now stabilized after a year off them.

I’d rather deal with slightly elevated cholesterol than that painful burning in my feet everyday.


45 posted on 01/09/2020 3:09:41 PM PST by LeoTDB69
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To: wgmalabama
I don’t think SSRI are the same as benzodiazepines.

They are, and I gave you my reference for what I said. I could have given others. Why do you argue with me about this, when you do not know what you are talking about? Here is one reference that you could have just looked up by googling on Valium:

Valium (click here)

From this reference, a direct cut & paste:

What is Valium?

Valium (diazepam) is a benzodiazepine (ben-zoe-dye-AZE-eh-peens). Diazepam affects chemicals in the brain that may be unbalanced in people with anxiety.

Valium is used to treat anxiety disorders, alcohol withdrawal symptoms, or muscle spasms.

Valium is sometimes used with other medications to treat seizures.
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I just scratch my head as to why you would think so highly of your own untutored opinion as to put it up as valid or worthwhile without even checking it against known standards that illustrate for all not only your ignorance, but your willingness to lead other credulous readers astray.

Here are some more SSRI benzodiazepines listed in the reference I gave (a * is to denote that the brand name is a registered trade name, with generic name in parentheses):

Alpidem*
Ambien* (Zolpidem)
Ativan* (Lorazepam)
Bromazepam* = Compendium* = Durazanil*
Buspar* (Buspirone)
Calmday* (Nordazepam)
Centrax* (Prazepam)
Clobazam* = Frisium*
Dalmane* (Flurazepam)
Doral* (Quazepam)
Dormonoct* (Loprazolam)
Halcion* (Triazolam)
Klomopin* (Clonazepam)
Librium* (Chlordiazepoxide)
Lunesta* (Eszopiclone)
Medazepam* = Nobrium*
Miltown* (Meprobamate)
Mogadon* (Nitrazepam)
Prosom* (Estazolam)
Restoril* (Temazepam)
Rohypnol* (Flunitrazwpan)
Serax* = Alepam* = Murelax* = Seresta* (Oxazepam)
Sonata* (Zaleplon)
Tranxene* (Chlorazepate)
Valium* (Diazepam)
Versed* = Hypnovel* = Dormicum* (Midazolam)
Xanax* (Alprazolam)
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In case there is anything left out, this is a 13-year-old list. There may be more now. But I don'ty know why you brought these up.

NONE of them are classed as cholesterol-lowering statin beta-blockers, which are the heart-affecting agents being discussed in this thread. Hm?

I’m no doctor or pharmacist.

Obviously. So you might want to remain silent in discussions calling for expert opinions on medications and their purposes.

Just sayin'.

46 posted on 01/09/2020 3:57:52 PM PST by imardmd1 (I'M A ReDeeMed 1 [Ps. 107:2])
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To: PrairieLady2

Statins make my joints hurt like the dickens.


Have you informed your doctor of this? All statins do not do this. It is a serious side effect that warrants a medication change, if possible.


47 posted on 01/09/2020 4:11:09 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: cweese

Depends upon the person. I have been on generic crestor for years, with none of the effects mentioned here. But my cholesterol and lips, etc., are great.


48 posted on 01/09/2020 4:14:08 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Marchmain

Children and adolescents should NEVER be on SSRIs.


49 posted on 01/09/2020 4:16:07 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: little jeremiah

Leopard, spots and all that.


50 posted on 01/09/2020 4:23:57 PM PST by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Hi.

Aspirin
Penicillin
Opioids

M Kehoe proudly not reading the article since 1998.

5.56mm


51 posted on 01/09/2020 4:26:20 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: M Kehoe

Willow.
Mold
Poppy.

5.56mm


52 posted on 01/09/2020 4:27:24 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! Finish THE WALL!)
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To: HamiltonJay

60 patients out of millions is statistically significant only to those 60 patients. I’m sure you’re aware that when drug trials are conducted, ANY symptom the trial participants develop, must be included in that drug’s list of side effects. Headache? Doesn’t matter if it was caused by a screaming toddler or a knock on the head, if a participant experiences it while on the drug trial, it must be documented as a side effect. That’s why some “side effects” are listed in such small numbers in the drug information.
Having said that, there are always going to be some people who react badly to a drug. Some of us are truly put together differently than most. And some people are very suggestable.


53 posted on 01/09/2020 4:29:02 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: ConservativeMind
I was put on a stain a year or so ago and the only change I've noticed is that I now want to strangle the paperboy if he misses my front steps.Apart from that everything’s fine
54 posted on 01/09/2020 4:32:01 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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To: PrairieLady2
I've read that that's a pretty common complaint. Fortunately it doesn't effect me.
55 posted on 01/09/2020 4:33:05 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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56 posted on 01/09/2020 4:42:23 PM PST by bitt (A FRIVOLOUS impeachment vote is a SEDITIOUS CONSPIRACY)
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To: imardmd1

SSRIs are NOT benzodiazepines! Entirely different class of meds, though some SSRIs are used to treat anxiety.


57 posted on 01/09/2020 4:47:20 PM PST by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: cweese; PrairieLady2

. I was taking generic Crestor for about 5 years and was primarily experiencing pain in my knees and shoulders which got worse over time. I quit taking them and within 2 weeks all of that pain was gone (along with nightmares and a general weak feeling I had the entire time I was on that drug).
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Exactly the same here. I have been passing it off as age related. I am 74.


58 posted on 01/09/2020 5:16:08 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Best left handed banjo picker on my entire block)
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To: cweese; PrairieLady2

. I was taking generic Crestor for about 5 years and was primarily experiencing pain in my knees and shoulders which got worse over time. I quit taking them and within 2 weeks all of that pain was gone (along with nightmares and a general weak feeling I had the entire time I was on that drug).
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Exactly the same here. I have been passing it off as age related. I am 74.


59 posted on 01/09/2020 5:16:39 PM PST by Graybeard58 (Best left handed banjo picker on my entire block)
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To: imardmd1

Your kind of an ass. Just in case you didn’t know.

From your own listed website of infinite knowledge.

https://www.drugs.com/answers/is-citalopram-the-same-as-a-benzo-347222.html

So no - SSRI are not all benzodiazepines.

But WTF ever. You win. I said I’m not an expert and don’t use SSRI or Valium. I use alcohol, tobacco and firearms for my stress relief.


60 posted on 01/09/2020 5:20:30 PM PST by wgmalabama (Mittens is the new Juan. Go away mittens)
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