Posted on 12/28/2019 4:59:46 PM PST by ExpatCanuck
As clearly as I can explain it:
An impeachment is an ‘accusation’ or ‘charge’.
The Constitution says the House has the responsibility for impeachments.
The Constitution allows the House to set it’s own rules.
The House has voted to impeach the President.
The President has been impeached (accused, charged) by the House.
The Constitution says the Senate has the responsibility for ‘trying’ impeachments.
The Constitution allows the Senate to set it’s own rules.
The Senate rules say that they will begin action on impeachment
when the House presents their findings to the Senate.
Thus far, the House has not presented their findings to the Senate.
So, we are currently at an impasse.
I can explain it to you,
but I can’t understand it for you.
well of course.
but this is just one angle. They are gonna use it for many angles.
the angle you mention, yes.
but also for the 2020 election commercials.
for the 2020 election debates amongst themselves.
Trump is their Goldstein.
Yes, debt accumulated through over-spending will destroy us like it has all other past empires. Debt will do us in long before the next climate change in the form of ice age.
“...when RGB passes, they can hop on the ‘unacceptable for a President under shadow of impeachment to appoint a Supreme Court Justice’ meme. Not to mention that he should not be allowed to grant any pardons or executive orders for the same reason.”
Just no:
1) The Senate can vote to acquit whenever it wants, no matter what the House does or does not do. That’s settled law (SCOTUS decision.)
2) The President’s authority to grant pardons is not subject to either Judicial Review or Congressional veto, as long as he avoids pardoning someone who is under House investigation, or on trial in the Senate, for impeachment.
The House Rats have ZERO say in the appointment of judges!
They can scream all they want, my money is on Trump and Cocaine Mitch.
If RBG croaks, Trump will nominate a good conservative justice, and Cocaine Mitch will ensure the nominee is approved by the Senate.
BOOM! SWISH! Trump scores again!
Problem is, the GOP tends to wimp out whenever dealing with dem shenanigans. They let themselves get played over and over and always let them off the hook. I hope this round of complete dem BS puts an end to that.
IMO impeachment is now all about satisfying their Maoist base (the Somali moslem,Occasional Cortex and their pals)... and it's a campaign strategy.
IIRC Al Green of Texas has been quoted as saying something like "if we don't impeach him we can't beat him".Occasionally a Rat will let the truth slip out.It doesn't happen and it's usually accidental but it can happen.
If Trump appoints a replacement for RBG then any vote fraud case in the election will go in Trump’s favor in the SCOTUS.
If they can create a tie in SCOTUS the lower court ruling would stand.
IMO, the entire impeachment circus is to prevent an unfavorable election ruling by SCOTUS.
Massive fraud and then a hung SCOTUS is their ONLY chance.
May God above protect the lives of the honorable supreme court justices...the left would stoop to any level.
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I can see that
Good explanation
Thanx
And if the new evidence (McGhan testimony and grand jury testimony from the Mueller investigation) is gained the details, at a minimum, will be leaked to the Democratic candidate(s) to be used in the election.
Not just key states but in all states where there are large cities controlled by Democrats. These cities report their vote totals after the rest of their states have reported so that the Democrat vote counters know how many votes to manufacture in order to win their states. It has been done regularly in a few states and in 2020 will be done in all states except, perhaps Florida. Trump won it in 2016 because of Democrat incompetence in fixing the vote in Broward and Palm Beach counties. It probably won’t happen there in 2020 because the governor replaced the vote counters. I have seen no indication that DJT has made or is making any moves to fix this situation. There really is not much he can do because the Constitution gives regulation of voting to the States and the States seem little inclined to try to fix that problem.
Trump cannot be intimidated to comply with Democrats programs. He does not need to get along in the Presidency. He would allow himself to be removed before he would cave. There is not really much of anything that the Democrats can do now beyound what they are doing, holding up the “trial” so they can claim DJT is, in fact, impeached while not allowing the Senate to cancel that by acquittal Pelosi has also signaled that impeachment will be THE agenda of any Democrat House of Representatives when there is a Republican President. There is no more sting attached to the procedure.
The Senate rules say that they will begin action on impeachment
when the House presents their findings to the Senate.
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Maybe such a rule currently in the senate but not so written in the constitution, which only says the senate alone decides trial rules.
Nothing in the Constitution says anything about the need for the house to “present their findings”.
I repeat:
The Constitution allows the Senate to set it’s own rules.
The Senate rules say that they will begin action on impeachment
when the House presents their findings to the Senate.
I can explain it to you,
but I can’t understand it for you.
The Constitution allows the Senate to set it’s own rules.
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You’re not thinking through your own words.
“The Constitution allows the Senate to set it’s own rules.“
Whatever senate rules currently in place can be changed by the senate per the constitution.
“The Constitution allows the Senate to set it’s own rules.”
If you focus like a laser on those words you can see the solution.
“The Constitution allows the Senate to set it’s own rules.”
Are you drunk?
Do you read what you post?
I can’t understand it for you.
I can’t understand it for you.
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Yes. You have condescendingly said that to everyone here in FR like you’re the big constitutional lawyer and the rest of us are putzes, but then you fail to get the import of the very words that you post.
Which is that the Senate gets to make the rules. Period.
And if there is an existing Senate rule that says they need to wait for the House to send something over... that’s a SENATE rule, not a rule in the constitution. And if it’s a SENATE rule, it’s something the SENATE can change. Per the constitution. Period.
So stop acting like you’re the only one with a valid opinion and try to read the actual words that you yourself actually posted, instead of talking down to everyone read your own damn post.
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