Probably when the world ends due to climate change...about 11.2 years, according to AOC.
After reading the first page of the thread, I skipped ahead to the last, as I expected it to devolve into hubris, innuendo, and personal attacks.
I was not disappointed...lol.
Last summer, we spent a day at Monticello. It was incredible, including a "conversation" with Thomas Jefferson's "interpreter." It was like going back in time, actually listening to Mr. Jefferson's words. He adroitly addressed a woman's question on slavery, taking over 20 minutes to answer her.
I saw her in the gift shop, and thanked her for the question. Her response? "I learned that I need to read a LOT more." Judging by what I see here, we could all read a lot more, hoping to gain more understanding.
We have got to get away from discussing issues in sound bites and tweets.
Some of our Lost Causers have large inventories of proof-texts they can quote from, and usually begin by posting them.
When those are debunked, or just run out, then they throw whatever cr*p they can at us.
Of course we do our best to remain civilized, but... well... what can I say, Schiff happens.
Night Hides Not: "Last summer, we spent a day at Monticello.
It was incredible, including a "conversation" with Thomas Jefferson's "interpreter."
It was like going back in time, actually listening to Mr. Jefferson's words.
He adroitly addressed a woman's question on slavery, taking over 20 minutes to answer her."
Jefferson was a, ahem, complicated figure, with much to admire but some to regret.
Simplified: Jefferson, like many Founders, considered slavery a necessary evil, which should be restricted & controlled, eventually abolished.
He helped abolish international imports of slaves and restricted slavery from the Northwest Territories, even proposed a plan for compensated emancipation and recolonization.
But he never freed most of his own slaves, not even in his will, and was content to leave the problem for future generations to solve.
Iirc, he foresaw that solution would not be easy.