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To: DoodleDawg; Kalamata
DoodleDawg: "Mr. Olive discounts most major branches of science because they conflict with his Biblical belief in creation..."

Right, and I have no problems with that -- I live out in the country and most of my neighbors share such beliefs.
But there is a clear distinction to be recognized.
It's this: the faith of my neighbors tells them the Bible is right and modern evolution-related science is wrong.

But our FRiend, Olive-boy, goes the next step beyond and redefines his terms, claiming now that the Bible is science and modern science is just a religion.
None of my neighbors, so far as I've ever heard, would say such a thing.

My own beliefs are the more obvious ones: when God spoke to ancient Israelites he spoke in their language using words & ideas they could understand.
He didn't try to explain the secrets of science to them because that was irrelevant.
What they needed to understand, first & foremost, is the same thing we need: that God created the natural realm and rules over it.
So, if science now discovers another natural process, that doesn't a whit diminish God's role, it only shows us His creative genius in making even inanimate objects capable of doing amazing things.
FWIW.

471 posted on 01/09/2020 5:08:07 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK; DoodleDawg

>>DoodleDawg wrote: “Mr. Olive discounts most major branches of science because they conflict with his Biblical belief in creation...”
>>Joey wrote: “Right, and I have no problems with that — I live out in the country and most of my neighbors share such beliefs. But there is a clear distinction to be recognized. It’s this: the faith of my neighbors tells them the Bible is right and modern evolution-related science is wrong.”

It my case it turned out to be the other way around. I was an evolutionist for most of my life, until I was exposed to scientific data that demonstrated the accuracy of the biblical narrative on the flood. It was quite a revelation.

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>>Joey wrote: “But our FRiend, Olive-boy, goes the next step beyond and redefines his terms, claiming now that the Bible is science and modern science is just a religion. None of my neighbors, so far as I’ve ever heard, would say such a thing.”

I have never said modern science is a religion, Joey. The pseudoscience of evolution is a faith-based religion — no doubt! But science is not a religion.

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>>Joey wrote: “My own beliefs are the more obvious ones: when God spoke to ancient Israelites he spoke in their language using words & ideas they could understand. He didn’t try to explain the secrets of science to them because that was irrelevant. What they needed to understand, first & foremost, is the same thing we need: that God created the natural realm and rules over it. So, if science now discovers another natural process, that doesn’t a whit diminish God’s role, it only shows us His creative genius in making even inanimate objects capable of doing amazing things.
FWIW.”

That is best characterized as, pseudohistory meets pseudoscience.

Mr. Kalamata


513 posted on 01/09/2020 8:23:42 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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