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To: Kalamata; jeffersondem; rockrr; DoodleDawg; x
Kalamata: "Don't let Joey fool you: evolution is his religion, On the Origin of Species is his holy book, and Darwin is his prophet."

This, I think, might be what Kalamata calls a "counterpunch", a total smear which Kalamata himself knows is a total lie, but which he can justify in his own mind on grounds of "counterpunching".
That's the charitable explanation, probably more realistic is that he just doesn't care if it's true or not, but it just feeeeeeels sooooo gooooood to say it, nothing else matters.

But sticking with "counterpunch", to what do Kalamata's lies "counterpunch"?
Why to the truth, of course, the truth about Kalamata and his messed-up mind.
The truth is Kalamata's definition of "science" begins & ends with the term "Biblical science" -- in his mind whatever supports that is science, whatever doesn't isn't.
The truth is Kalamata's definition of "history" boils down to approximately this: the evil Enlightenment Age brought us Lincoln's tyranny over freedom loving Confederates and give us today's legal abortions and mandatory atheistic evolution in public schools.

Kalamata: "I asked Joey for evidence of evolution, and all he could deliver were highly-imaginative museum mockups based on highly-fragmented fossils.
The ENCODE Project Report of 2012 exposed the myth of Junk DNA that the evolutionist so heavily relied upon, so they are now desperately trying to keep the evolution myth alive."

And here we see on display Kalamata's denier tactics.
The truth is Kalamata will accept no evidence, period, which might conflict with his own ideas of "Biblical science".
As for so-called "junk DNA", from the beginning that term referred to roughly 90% of DNA found to be non-coding.
In more recent years other functions were found for some of the 90% and thus "junk" is not such a good term for it.
Indeed, large statistical studies suggest that some "junk" is influenced by evolution, all of which Kalamata uses to claim:

  1. evolution scientists are liars and
  2. evolution is bunk.
And because atheistic science is all lies, the real truth can be found in, yes, "Biblical science", says Kalamata.

Kalamata: "Scientists know there is no empirical evidence for evolution -- none; and more and more scientists are speaking out, despite a credible threat to their careers by the modern-day Inquisition of the evolutionism orthodoxy."

That's total nonsense, but here's what's true: there is in fact a serious anti-evolution industry supported most visibly by promoters like Ken Ham (Ark Encounter) and doubtless some conservative Universities.
They embrace such terms as "intelligent design" and "irreducible complexity", reject all conflicting evidence and they have worked out somewhat detailed explanations in order to reduce both the Earth's age and evolution's role.
Yes, some do admit evidence for an older Earth, but true believers like Ham & Kalamata reject all interpretations which add to their Biblical understanding of ~10,000 years.

Now every word of the above is true, but in response our FRiend Kalamata will "counterpunch" with a blast of lies, doubtless because it feeeels sooo goood, why bother to make the effort to be honest?

Kalamata: "Child."

As I was saying...

Kalamata: "The geological column is not fake evidence, Joey. "

Your "analysis" is totally fraudulent, your conclusions are pure religion.

Kalamata: "Again, I am a counter-puncher.
If you have contrary evidence, please present it."

In every post you "counter" nothing, instead you aggressively punch your anti-science, anti-history, anti-American agenda.
You argue, if arguments might work, otherwise you smear, insult & belittle when they don't.
That's not "counterpunch", that's just propaganda.

Kalamata: "Joey reminds me of the proverbial 'children in the marketplace.' "

As I was saying...

Kalamata: "I know you cannot provide any examples, Child.
For the rest of you, these are the kinds of scientific quotes from devout evolutionists that outrage (and scare the daylights out of) the evolutionism ideologues:"

As I was saying... here Kalamata first demanded I copy & paste his own quotes of Stephen Gould, then does his own homework and in the process proves my point: Kalamata uses Gould's discussion of evolution to argue against evolution.
Typical denier tactic.

435 posted on 01/08/2020 5:01:22 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK
This, I think, might be what Kalamata calls a "counterpunch", a total smear which Kalamata himself knows is a total lie, but which he can justify in his own mind on grounds of "counterpunching".

You cannot reason someone out of a position they were not reasoned into. Mr. Olive discounts most major branches of science because they conflict with his Biblical belief in creation and the accounts of a global flood and other incidents outlined in Genesis. That is his faith, he accepts it without question, and will dismiss anything that conflicts with it regardless of what evidence you may present.

436 posted on 01/08/2020 5:27:28 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: BroJoeK; jeffersondem; rockrr; DoodleDawg; x

>>Kalamata wrote: “Don’t let Joey fool you: evolution is his religion, On the Origin of Species is his holy book, and Darwin is his prophet.”
>>Joey wrote: “This, I think, might be what Kalamata calls a “counterpunch”, a total smear which Kalamata himself knows is a total lie, but which he can justify in his own mind on grounds of “counterpunching”. That’s the charitable explanation, probably more realistic is that he just doesn’t care if it’s true or not, but it just feeeeeeels sooooo gooooood to say it, nothing else matters. But sticking with “counterpunch”, to what do Kalamata’s lies “counterpunch”? Why to the truth, of course, the truth about Kalamata and his messed-up mind.”

Child.

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>>Joey wrote: “The truth is Kalamata’s definition of “science” begins & ends with the term “Biblical science” — in his mind whatever supports that is science, whatever doesn’t isn’t.”

The only think Joey knows about science is how to spell it.

****************
>>Joey wrote: “The truth is Kalamata’s definition of “history” boils down to approximately this: the evil Enlightenment Age brought us Lincoln’s tyranny over freedom loving Confederates and give us today’s legal abortions and mandatory atheistic evolution in public schools.”

Lincoln’s form of evil preceded the so-called “Enlightenment,” Joey. A greedy Pharisee comes to mind.

****************
>>Kalamata wrote: “I asked Joey for evidence of evolution, and all he could deliver were highly-imaginative museum mockups based on highly-fragmented fossils. The ENCODE Project Report of 2012 exposed the myth of Junk DNA that the evolutionist so heavily relied upon, so they are now desperately trying to keep the evolution myth alive.”
>>Joey wrote: “And here we see on display Kalamata’s denier tactics. The truth is Kalamata will accept no evidence, period, which might conflict with his own ideas of “Biblical science”.”

I accept all verifiable evidence, Joey. That is what scientists are supposed to do.

****************
>>Joey wrote: “As for so-called “junk DNA”, from the beginning that term referred to roughly 90% of DNA found to be non-coding. In more recent years other functions were found for some of the 90% and thus “junk” is not such a good term for it.”

By 2018, it was determined that more than 95% was functional in one manner or another, making evolution even more impossible than was previously believed (which was, it is impossible.)

****************
>>Joey wrote: “Indeed, large statistical studies suggest that some “junk” is influenced by evolution, all of which Kalamata uses to claim: evolution scientists are liars and, evolution is bunk. And because atheistic science is all lies, the real truth can be found in, yes, “Biblical science”, says Kalamata.””

Years ago, when genetic research was in a more primitive state, members of the evolutionism cult noticed that only a small portion of the DNA appeared to be functional. So they made up this elaborate story about the remainder of the DNA, labeling it as evolvable “junk.” LOL!

As always, God had the last laugh. Researchers now believe all (100%) of the genome, within the complex factory called a cell, is functional in one manner or another. In other words, God didn’t make no junk! LOL!

One other point: since there is no junk DNA in the human, it cannot evolve. It can devolve via mutations (genes can be broken!), but it cannot evolve. That means, evolution is not science, but a faith-based religion based on story-telling. Nothing else.

****************
>>Kalamata wrote: “Scientists know there is no empirical evidence for evolution — none; and more and more scientists are speaking out, despite a credible threat to their careers by the modern-day Inquisition of the evolutionism orthodoxy.”
>>Joey wrote: “That’s total nonsense, but here’s what’s true: there is in fact a serious anti-evolution industry supported most visibly by promoters like Ken Ham (Ark Encounter) and doubtless some conservative Universities. They embrace such terms as “intelligent design” and “irreducible complexity”, reject all conflicting evidence and they have worked out somewhat detailed explanations in order to reduce both the Earth’s age and evolution’s role.

LOL! This is a February 2019 list of dissenters from Darwinism:

https://www.discovery.org/m/2019/10/Scientific-Dissent-from-Darwinism-List-09302019.pdf

It appears that most every major university in the world is represented.

Naturally, those are established and/or tenured professors and researchers; otherwise the Inquisition of the scientific orthodoxy would seek to destroy their careers and make their lives miserable, as they did in the days of Galileo.

****************
>>Kalamata wrote: “Yes, some do admit evidence for an older Earth, but true believers like Ham & Kalamata reject all interpretations which add to their Biblical understanding of ~10,000 years.”

There is no doubt a global flood covered the earth and laid down all the thick, fossil-laden, homogeneous layers of sediment found worldwise. Did you know there are marine (ocean) fossils found in virtually every layer, even at the top of Mount Everest?

The homogeneous nature of the sediment, and the lack of erosion and bioturbation between the layers, renders gradual deposition a mere myth.

****************
>>Kalamata wrote: “Now every word of the above is true, but in response our FRiend Kalamata will “counterpunch” with a blast of lies, doubtless because it feeeels sooo goood, why bother to make the effort to be honest?”

Like David Berlinski said about evolutionism, “I never tire of flogging that beast!” LOL!

****************
>>Kalamata wrote: “The geological column is not fake evidence, Joey. “
>>Joey wrote: “Your “analysis” is totally fraudulent, your conclusions are pure religion.”

Explain to us how those layers formed, Joey. When you get through with that explanation, please explain how all the major phyla showed up in the bottom layers, when they should have “evolved,” with most appearing in later layers.

****************
>>Kalamata wrote: “I know you cannot provide any examples, Child. For the rest of you, these are the kinds of scientific quotes from devout evolutionists that outrage (and scare the daylights out of) the evolutionism ideologues:”
>>Joey wrote: “As I was saying... here Kalamata first demanded I copy & paste his own quotes of Stephen Gould, then does his own homework and in the process proves my point: Kalamata uses Gould’s discussion of evolution to argue against evolution. Typical denier tactic.”

It was Stephen Gould who argued against Darwin’s theory of gradualism; and, as Richard Dawkins explained, without gradualism, there is no Darwinism. Take it up with Gould when you see him in the afterlife.

Mr. Kalamata


449 posted on 01/08/2020 2:09:10 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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To: Kalamata; DiogenesLamp; central_va; Who is John Galt?; OIFVeteran; Bull Snipe; rockrr; ...
“This, I think, might be what Kalamata calls a “counterpunch”, a total smear which Kalamata himself knows is a total lie, but which he can justify in his own mind on grounds of “counterpunching”.
That's the charitable explanation, probably more realistic is that he just doesn't care if it's true or not, but it just feeeeeeels sooooo gooooood to say it, nothing else matters.
But sticking with “counterpunch”, to what do Kalamata’s lies “counterpunch”?
Why to the truth, of course, the truth about Kalamata and his messed-up mind.
The truth is Kalamata’s definition of “science” begins & ends with the term “Biblical science” — in his mind whatever supports that is science, whatever doesn't isn't.
The truth is Kalamata’s definition of “history” boils down to approximately this: the evil Enlightenment Age brought us Lincoln's tyranny over freedom loving Confederates and give us today's legal abortions and mandatory atheistic evolution in public schools.
Kalamata: “I asked Joey for evidence of evolution, and all he could deliver were highly-imaginative museum mockups based on highly-fragmented fossils.
The ENCODE Project Report of 2012 exposed the myth of Junk DNA that the evolutionist so heavily relied upon, so they are now desperately trying to keep the evolution myth alive.”
And here we see on display Kalamata’s denier tactics.
The truth is Kalamata will accept no evidence, period, which might conflict with his own ideas of “Biblical science”.
As for so-called “junk DNA”, from the beginning that term referred to roughly 90% of DNA found to be non-coding.
In more recent years other functions were found for some of the 90% and thus “junk” is not such a good term for it.
Indeed, large statistical studies suggest that some “junk” is influenced by evolution, all of which Kalamata uses to claim:
evolution scientists are liars and
evolution is bunk.
And because atheistic science is all lies, the real truth can be found in, yes, “Biblical science”, says Kalamata.
Kalamata: “Scientists know there is no empirical evidence for evolution — none; and more and more scientists are speaking out, despite a credible threat to their careers by the modern-day Inquisition of the evolutionism orthodoxy.”
That's total nonsense, but here's what's true: there is in fact a serious anti-evolution industry supported most visibly by promoters like Ken Ham (Ark Encounter) and doubtless some conservative Universities.
They embrace such terms as “intelligent design” and “irreducible complexity”, reject all conflicting evidence and they have worked out somewhat detailed explanations in order to reduce both the Earth's age and evolution's role.
Yes, some do admit evidence for an older Earth, but true believers like Ham & Kalamata reject all interpretations which add to their Biblical understanding of ~10,000 years.
Now every word of the above is true, but in response our FRiend Kalamata will “counterpunch” with a blast of lies, doubtless because it feeeels sooo goood, why bother to make the effort to be honest?
Kalamata: “Child.”
As I was saying...
Kalamata: “The geological column is not fake evidence, Joey. “
Your “analysis” is totally fraudulent, your conclusions are pure religion.
Kalamata: “Again, I am a counter-puncher.
If you have contrary evidence, please present it.”
In every post you “counter” nothing, instead you aggressively punch your anti-science, anti-history, anti-American agenda.
You argue, if arguments might work, otherwise you smear, insult & belittle when they don't.
That's not “counterpunch”, that's just propaganda.
Kalamata: “Joey reminds me of the proverbial ‘children in the marketplace.’ “
As I was saying...
Kalamata: “I know you cannot provide any examples, Child.
For the rest of you, these are the kinds of scientific quotes from devout evolutionists that outrage (and scare the daylights out of) the evolutionism ideologues:”
As I was saying... here Kalamata first demanded I copy & paste his own quotes of Stephen Gould, then does his own homework and in the process proves my point: Kalamata uses Gould's discussion of evolution to argue against evolution.
Typical denier tactic.”

I guess about now, Brother Kalamata, you are thinking along the lines of Melville's Ishmael after talking with the cannibal.

“I do not think that my remarks about religion made much impression upon Queequeg. Because, in the first place, he somehow seemed dull of hearing on that important subject, unless considered from his own point of view; and, in the second place, he did not more than one third understand me, couch my ideas simply as I would; and, finally, he no doubt thought he knew a good deal more about the true religion than I did. He looked at me with a sort of condescending concern and compassion, as though he thought it a great pity that such a sensible young man should be so hopelessly lost to evangelical pagan piety.”

482 posted on 01/09/2020 10:04:27 AM PST by jeffersondem
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