[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "You are dodging the point.
The point is that Court rulings are not proof of anything because often times the Courts are ran by kooks.
A court that makes abortion legal under a 14th amendment pretense is not qualified to "rule" on anything."

So let's see how this adds up:
On the one side we have the opinions of DiogenesLamp, self-confessed pro-Confederate, anti-American, anti-Federalist & anti-Republican who wants only one thing: to destroy the USA.

On the other side we have three constitutional branches of government, all supporting President Lincoln.
We also have at least 90% of all historians.
Last and most important, by 1864 over 70% of voters voted Republican and by 1866 that rose over 80%.
No majorities since then have ever reversed those voters' judgments.

So, let's see... DiogenesLamp's anti-American fantasies versus the weight of history...?
Sorry, but it's not a close call.

[Kalamata]

>>BroJoeK wrote: "On the other side we have three constitutional branches of government, all supporting President Lincoln. We also have at least 90% of all historians. Last and most important, by 1864 over 70% of voters voted Republican and by 1866 that rose over 80%. No majorities since then have ever reversed those voters' judgments."

"Consensus is the first refuge of scoundrels."

[Crichton, Michael, "Aliens Cause Global Warming." Wall Street Journal, 2003]"

Mr. Kalamata

[DiogenesLamp]

On the one side we have the opinions of DiogenesLamp, self-confessed pro-Confederate, anti-American, anti-Federalist & anti-Republican who wants only one thing: to destroy the USA.

You act like you are going to respond to my point and then you just launch into an ad hominem? Do you think you will hurt my feelings with this sort of rant? Are you doing it to impress others?

I don't think adults need to waste people's time by portraying others as "bad people." It does nothing to convince the person you are arguing with of the correctness of your claim, and it doesn't convince any undecided observers either.

It is simply "preaching to the choir". It is not debate.

Back to the discussion. How do you get Abortion out of the 14th Amendment? How do you get banning prayer in public schools out of the 14th amendment?