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To: Bull Snipe; jeffersondem; DoodleDawg; OIFVeteran; Kalamata; DiogenesLamp; rockrr
jeffersondem to DoodleDawg: "The Confederate president fought to protect and defend his nation’s constitution and, arguably, President Lincoln did the same thing.
Both constitutions enshrined slavery."

Bull Snipe to jeffersondem: "But in one of those Constitutions it was legal for a state to end slavery.
By 1860 15 states had done so.
In the other Constitution, states did not have that right."

I count 19 free-states in 1860, including Kansas.
By war's end in 1865 there were 23 free-states, 13 slave-states.
During the war three Union slave-states abolished slavery on their own, and one new free-state was admitted (Nevada).
Eight of 11 Confederate states ratified the US 13th Amendment in 1865.
Three of those -- Virginia, Louisiana and Tennessee -- ratified the US 13th Amendment before RE Lee's surrender at Appomattox Court House, April 9, 1865.

1,528 posted on 02/07/2020 12:56:43 PM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK
Eight of 11 Confederate states ratified the US 13th Amendment in 1865.

Washington DC sockpuppets "ratified" an Amendment Washington DC ordered them to ratify.

That's not how "ratification" actually works. You can't hold guns to people's head and threaten them into doing something, and then claim they did it voluntarily.

This was done in conflict with the constitutional process. This was an example of dictatorship.

1,535 posted on 02/07/2020 1:32:10 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no oither sovereignty."/)
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