Oh my goodness -- the first part of your sentence here is exactly right, but at then you descend into gibberish -- "and is enshrined in the Constitution".
In fact, the Constitution says nothing about either secession or "self determination".
Our Founders had plenty to say about "a long train of abuses and usurpations", but the Constitution itself says nothing.
Kalamata quoting Jefferson: "Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding, and should, therefore, be construed by the ordinary rules of common sense.
Their meaning is not to be sought for in metaphysical subtleties, which may make anything mean everything or nothing, at pleasure.""
Exactly right, but metaphysics is what our pro-Confederates appeal to in order to justify 1860 unilateral unapproved declarations of secession at pleasure.
That is not true. The right to secede, and many others, are mentioned here.
"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."
[Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People, in "Constitution of the United States and Amendments." 1787]
Joey, like all other progressives, believes in the concept of a "living constitution," which is, the federal government can do as it pleases in all cases whatsoever.
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>>Kalamata quoting Jefferson: "Laws are made for men of ordinary understanding, and should, therefore, be construed by the ordinary rules of common sense. Their meaning is not to be sought for in metaphysical subtleties, which may make anything mean everything or nothing, at pleasure."
>>BroJoeK wrote: "Exactly right, but metaphysics is what our pro-Confederates appeal to in order to justify 1860 unilateral unapproved declarations of secession at pleasure."
No, Joey. They simply looked in the Constitution to the section titled, "Powers of Congress," and didn't find secession listed there; then they looked to the section titled, "Powers prohibited of States," and didn't find it there, either. Therefore, they knew that the right and power to secede belongs to the states, by default.
That is such a simple concept, and the 10th Amendment clearly explains it; so I must assume you are either being deceitful to us, or you don't want to know the truth (which is being deceitful to yourself.)
Mr. Kalamata