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Kalamata's post #547 is quite lengthy, so I'll split it up into pieces, this being the first of them.

Kalamata: "Acts-of-war are acts-of-war, Joey.
Major Anderson's dumb move was the first.
The second was when Buchanan ordered the reinforcement and resupply of the Fort"

Right, Danny-child, you insane Democrats, then as now, were calling every defense of America "illegal", "impeachable", "acts of war", etc., etc.
When it comes to hating America, Democrats were just as rabid in 1860 as you are today.

Kalamata on Buchanan's refusal to surrender Fort Sumter: "That was an act of war."

Right, in your insane Democrat mindset, any actions in defense of the USA are "acts of war" or "impeachable offenses" or "illegal measures" against... well, in those days against secessionist states, these days against sanctuary states, among others.

Kalamata: "Acts-of-war are acts-of-war, Joey.
Pretending those were peace initiatives will never alter that fact that they were threats against sovereign states."

Only in the minds of insane Democrats.

Kalamata: "I will agree that Lincoln was a psychopath, and a true democrat."

Sorry, FRiend, but as Jeremiah 13:23 reminds us, the tiger doesn't change its stripes, a leopard doesn't change its spots and you Democrats have been the same forever.
So today you don't get to project your own behaviors onto Republicans like a Lincoln or Trump.

Kalamata: "This fellow also believed that Lincoln was a true democrat:

"[I]n an instance of urgent necessity, an official of a democratic, constitutional state will be acting more faithfully to his oath of office if he breaks one law in order that the rest may operate unimpeded... "

Well... First: every President has responded to some emergency or opportunity not previously contemplated, for example, President Jefferson himself said his Louisiana Purchase was not constitutional.
In every case Congress & courts responded by either accepting the President's actions, adjusting laws accordingly, or strengthening laws to prevent future similar actions.

In Lincoln's case, all of his actions were ultimately accepted by both Congress and the Supreme Court.

You Democrats of course, then as now, went berserk seeing a strong Republican strongly defending our nation.
As Solomon tells us (Eccl 1:9-14): and so there is nothing new under the sun.

Kalamata: "That statement could just as easily apply to Hitler.
Obviously, Rossiter, a devout Lincolnite, believed the deception that a constitutional system of government can be saved by destroying it, thus demonstrating that Rossiter, also, was a true democrat."

You know, FRiend, by long-standing Free Republic rules, when you throw out the "Hitler card" it means you've lost the argument and are effectively surrendering abjectly.

And... Second, every word like "democrat", "republican", "liberal" or "conservative" has somewhat different upper case and lower case definitions.
For example, a "liberal" in Jefferson's time referred to people like Jefferson, who named his own political party "Democratic Republicans" -- Jefferson himself saw no irony or conflict in putting those two words together.
In that sense, we are all democrats and republicans.

But the Upper-Case Democrat party is a very different creature, from its beginning in Jefferson's time representing a set of political & operational pathologies which have occasionally benefitted our nation, but more often proved catastrophic to it, the chief example being Civil War.
These pathologies can be summarized under terms like, "anti-Federalism", "nullification", "slavery", "secession", "rebellion", "Black Codes", "segregation", "KKK terrorism", "mass internments", "welfare state" and now "sanctuary cities", "open borders", "anti-law enforcement", etc.
And the central theme which unites all these Democrat pathologies is the use of government to enforce special privileges for Democrat voters, be they the old-time slaveholders or today's welfare plantations.

So what drives you Democrats berserk beyond reason is seeing such special privileges withdrawn and/or given to others who are not your faithful voter base.
It's why you Democrats declared secession in 1860 and impeachment in 2019.

Kalamata: "It is not about winning or losing, Joey, but seeking the truth."

But, Danny-child, you've never "sought the truth", only so much of it as can be twisted to support your own pro-Confederate allegiances.
That's why you lose.

This is enough for now, will continue later...

I replied to the wrong post. This is the right one.

>>Kalamata wrote: “Acts-of-war are acts-of-war, Joey. Major Anderson’s dumb move was the first. The second was when Buchanan ordered the reinforcement and resupply of the Fort”
>>BroJoeK wrote: “Right, Danny-child, you insane Democrats, then as now, were calling every defense of America “illegal”, “impeachable”, “acts of war”, etc., etc. When it comes to hating America, Democrats were just as rabid in 1860 as you are today.”

You are such a Drama Queen, Joey! Lincolnites (e.g., big-government progressives) tend to downplay the fact that about 350,000 United States Soldiers died during Lincoln’s war, as well as about 300,000 Confederate Soldiers (who are also U.S. Military Veterans;) along with tens of thousands, perhaps hundreds of thousands of civilians, which included tens of thousands of blacks. Lincoln really wanted those taxes.

Mr. Kalamata