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To: Robert DeLong; All

Again disagree.

You can say someone was arrested but it’s nothing without conviction. An arrest record without conviction is less than vapor.

You could be arrested a thousand times, but without conviction it is vacuous.

A mythical myopic law enforcement officer might say I’m arresting you for being arrested dozens of times, in fact the total number of charges in all those arrests number more than a hundred, therefore I’m arresting you for having been arrested multiple times.

Nonsense.

Without conviction, the arrest is nothing.

What do call a person who tells the truth 999 times?

You call them a 999 truth teller.

What do you call a person that tells the truth 999 times and then tells a lie on the 1000th time?

You call then a liar.

The nonsense continues that the arrested will be memorialized as having been arrested.

And that’s what the leftist loons will drink to, that Trump is an arrested President.


70 posted on 12/18/2019 7:43:34 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: Hostage
You can say someone was arrested but it’s nothing without conviction. An arrest record without conviction is less than vapor.

You think that is the case?

Every time you apply for a job you have to list all of your arrests. For some employers the mere fact that you got arrested is enough for them to most likely look past you and on to someone else.

Same holds true for an impeached President, the stigma stays with them for their entire life. He will still go down in history as an impeached president.

I fully understand you are trying to make the distinction that conviction implies guilt, whereas not being convicted implies innocence.

Do you believe that O.J. Simmpson did not kill his wife Nicole and her male friend Ron Goldman, or do you believe he got away with double murder?

Better yet, do you believe Bill Clinton should have been convicted of the crimes he was impeached for, or do you think the crimes did not justify removal from office? He was obviously guilty of the crimes he was charged with.

In either case some people say yes, while others say no to the above questions. So while most of the nation will see impeachment as BS, others will see it as confirmation that the President was guilty, regardless if he is convicted or not.

Obviously for legal reasons not being convicted is the better outcome. But you may still spend a lifetime of people thinking you were guilty and paying a price for it anyway, but just not behind physical bars.

Because this impeachment was secured by completely partisan vote, it will ease the stigma for President Donald J. Trump, for it will be seen for what it was, a political impeachment, and not an impeachment for just causes. But he will still go down in history as being impeached. But also be mindful that winners write history, and right now liberals are writing the history, not conservatives. If we were, our children would be learning the truth about this nation, and not the lies that they are currently being taught.

My point to you is you are trying to say that impeachment is a 2 part process, which is factually incorrect. Just like arrest is not a 2 part process. That both arrest and impeachment are synonymous and once either is attached to you it remains with you for life, regardless of its validity or not.

113 posted on 12/19/2019 7:19:16 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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