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Vanity: Are we missing something in the democrat strategy?
http://freerepublic.com/tag/*/index ^ | 12/16/2019 | samtheman

Posted on 12/16/2019 5:51:15 AM PST by samtheman

Many conservatives -- in the media, on FR, in the general population -- believe that the democrats are hurting themselves with this serial impeachment hoax.

Certainly I believe that.

But this morning I had a scary thought.

What if we are wrong? What if the demons are playing their cards in the most effective way they can? What if they are a Hitler who did not make the mistake of invading Russia, but went for the mideast oil instead? What if they are a Hitler who didn't waste his Luftwaffe on an unwinnable air war with the RAF? What if they are a Hitler who did everything right?

What that means in terms of today:

Trump has delivered Peace and Prosperity. Early in his first term it was pretty obvious that he was putting the country on track for Peace and Prosperity.

How are the demons supposed to combat THAT?

What can they do, argue for a Green New Deal, a Medicare For All? Well, sure, they can do that, and they do that. But that's only for their base. They can't win elections with those ideas.

There are only two things they can do:

1. Massive voter fraud. 2. Get rid of Trump outside of the electoral process.

We all assume that #1 is a given, but also that by itself it's not enough, especially given the Peace and Prosperity Trump is delivering.

So how to you run against Peace and Prosperity?

You don't.

So what do you do?

EXACTLY WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE DOING.

The democrats are Hitler husbanding the Luftwaffe and not wasting it in a futile war over the skies of Britain. The democrats are Hitler keeping up the fiction of an alliance with Stalin and instead sending a massive force into North Africa, taking the Suez Canal and from there all of mideast oil... and with the help of the Luftwaffe they didn't lose over Britain, making the Mediterranean a German lake.

The democrats are evil. Very, very evil. As evil or more evil than Hitler. (I know... #1 internet violation, but I don't care.)

But they are not stupid. They are not making Hitlerian mistakes.

They are doing the right thing to win their evil goals.

For evidence I ask you one simple question:

Whatever you believe Trump's real approval rating is right now... I know we can't cite the publicly available fake-poll numbers, but there is a real number out there... and whatever that real number is... don't you think his approval rating would be significantly higher, maybe MUCH MUCH higher, if the democrats only ran on the issues and nothing else?


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To: LS

Speaking of fielding good candidates, is Ronna Romney McDaniel up to the job? Is that her job?


41 posted on 12/16/2019 6:27:28 AM PST by americas.best.days... ( Donald John Trump has pulled the sword from the stone.)
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To: samtheman
Along these lines, and apropos to any and every strategy ever found when you are actually standing on a field of 
battle, the 'Rat's just want to get to the floor of the U.S. Senate. Why? Because that's where the matter will be 
decided and they know the decision/outcome isn't always rational...

They also know that, in this case where there are a majority of decision makers who are self-centered, narcissistic, 
prima donna's (and likely sociopaths) and among them there is a Romney... And perhaps more than one...
And maybe a few.

No laws, rationality or Constitution required...

42 posted on 12/16/2019 6:27:45 AM PST by trfree98 (Words have meaning but values and actions define character and real time outcomes.)
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To: samtheman
I submit that it is very possible that at least some democrats had very early inklings that Trump was going to be very successful, that they believed and hated Trump's campaign promises, and that they crafted this evil plan with the partial advance understanding that this was THE ONLY WAY TO BEAT TRUMP.

The Democrats have already, internally, conceded 2020 to the GOP. They are resigned to losing the House as well. That is why 1) the best Democrat candidates are not running, and 2) Trump had to be impeached before the election.

Right now, the Dems are fighting for control of their party and their base -- just as the GOP did after 2016. Trump won the GOP. It remains to be seen who will win control of the Dem party.

There is also the matter of the Swamp. Establishment politicians on both sides of the aisle are AFRAID of losing their good thing. From the Obamas to the Clintons to the Bidens to the Kerrys to the Pelosis, a lot of political families are on the gravy train. I'm sure prominent republicans are as well. I believe this impeachment exercise was a game of chicken. The president did not blink. Looking forward to what comes next.
43 posted on 12/16/2019 6:28:17 AM PST by wizwor
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To: samtheman

I predict an avalanche of negative “Blaisie Ford” type accusations after the House votes to impeach Trump.

They will come over the holidays with while the Senate is on recess.

The goal will be to transform the political landscape before the Senate meets again in January.

McConnell should extend the current session and do the acquittal fast.


44 posted on 12/16/2019 6:28:37 AM PST by 5by5 (ad)
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To: Kharis13
They are desperate, but they're also full of hate and rage.

The UK elections were a clue. After a complete landslide against them--did the left say "Oh, I guess the voters don't agree with us. We may want to moderate to meet the needs of the voters" or did they say "The voters are idiots and we are right. F&^% them."
45 posted on 12/16/2019 6:28:42 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: Dahoser; Liz

Are we missing something in the Democrat strategy? No, we are not the ones missing something. They are. They continue to think they can outfox and outsmart President Trump and he continues to make them look like Wile E. Coyote. They thought they had him with the Ukraine phone call until he did what no one expected: he released the transcript. That takes stones, and he’s got them.

You agree with Liz.

But still... the question isn’t “will the impeachment succeed as an impeachment” but “will the impeachment succeed as a way to suppress Trump’s numbers”.


46 posted on 12/16/2019 6:29:37 AM PST by samtheman (U.S. out of the U.N. --- U.N. out of the U.S.)
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To: samtheman

Your reaction is natural.
They have taught us that they have zero integrity, no moral boundaries, and an agenda to destroy this Republic.
That said, it is unreal that they have the audacity to impeach based upon hearsay, lies and to squash due process.
But, they have the media on their side.


47 posted on 12/16/2019 6:29:51 AM PST by SisterK (its a spiritual war)
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To: samtheman

A good thing to remember as we watch the Dems commit impeachment suicide.......

“In politics, as in life, timing is everything.”

Trump knows this very well and is a maser at gauging the right time to make his move.


48 posted on 12/16/2019 6:30:16 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: cgbg

Do they have voter fraud in the UK?


49 posted on 12/16/2019 6:30:26 AM PST by samtheman (U.S. out of the U.N. --- U.N. out of the U.S.)
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To: cgbg

Yup, they doubled-down on stupid. American lefties are doing the same thing.


50 posted on 12/16/2019 6:31:48 AM PST by Kharis13
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To: samtheman

Democrat Judges have criminalized honest elections.

That is the USA’s greatest threat.

If the military hangings ever start, they should move them to the front of the row.


51 posted on 12/16/2019 6:32:09 AM PST by TheNext (LeGaBiT)
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To: SisterK

they have the media on their side

Of course they couldn’t do what they are doing without that.

Watch any random 5 minutes of any of the media outside of Fox (and even Fox has Judge Neoplainstupid).


52 posted on 12/16/2019 6:32:15 AM PST by samtheman (U.S. out of the U.N. --- U.N. out of the U.S.)
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To: samtheman

I don’t know the story on UK voting fraud, but in this election the Tories won seats by a large margin, and in districts that were never contested before.

In addition, voter fraud works best in statewide elections in an electoral college scenario. In the UK you would have to steal one seat at a time—a more difficult proposition.


53 posted on 12/16/2019 6:32:45 AM PST by cgbg (The Democratic Party is morphing into the Donner Party)
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To: OIFVeteran

.……..from one veteran to another, ……..I disagree. There’s NOTHING (within reasonable limits) that Trump could do to get me to vote for a Democrat!


54 posted on 12/16/2019 6:33:27 AM PST by Cen-Tejas
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To: Kharis13

Don’t think it’s hate and rage as much as FEAR!!
If the extent of Demonrat corruption is ever just partially revealed, it will cause so much damage to the party that they CANNOT allow it to even begin to happen.


55 posted on 12/16/2019 6:36:36 AM PST by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)
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To: samtheman
Personally I am of the opinion that they are winding up their kook base so that if Trump does win the election in 2020, they will cut loose the useful idiots to riot in the streets.
Then they can demand that Trump step down for the "good of the country".
These riots would occur in states and cities controlled by democrats preventing rational law enforcement from effectively dealing with them.
They will burn down the house if they don't get their way.
56 posted on 12/16/2019 6:37:08 AM PST by Falcon4.0
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To: samtheman

Don’t quote my number here but didn’t a judge in Wisconsin order the purging of something like 140,000 “voters” from the rolls? (dead, moved, no return on inquiry etc.) That was just one city. Think about those numbers nationwide.
If anyone has suggestions on how to counter this please disseminate ASAP.


57 posted on 12/16/2019 6:37:58 AM PST by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: samtheman

The thesis here isn’t clear. So the Democrats are pursuing endless and mindless impeachment because they are smart? I think it is more direct and only time will tell (and elections) if it will work. Their plan is to destroy as much as possible the worldwide public impression that comes with his success as a leader. They also will work hard at replacing enough senate candidates so that he loses the next trial in the Senate. It’s all they have and the media and many world powers that be will help all they can.


58 posted on 12/16/2019 6:39:29 AM PST by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: samtheman
......the question isn’t “will the impeachment succeed as an impeachment”
but “will impeachment succeed as a way to suppress Trump’s numbers”.......

Keep in mind, Democraps had only one thing going for them when they took the House.

That, of course, was impeachment. It helped give their disgruntled base a few thrills, and, was the MO to raise campaign money.

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Remember when teacher handed out "make-work" to an unruly class?

Impeachment is make-work. Kept the Dem scoundrels busy........kept them from making more mischief.

59 posted on 12/16/2019 6:42:15 AM PST by Liz (Our side has 8 trillion bullets; the other side doesn't know which bathroom to use.)
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To: samtheman

Always good to anticipate anything with them.

My take

They were obligated to impeach as many ran on that

They will say

We impeached him, senate didn’t, we need to maintain house and gain senate to right this wrong.

Process starts over again. We have already heard that he could be impeached multiple times so to me that could be their cake and eat it too strategy.

They do not believe in the normal the winner should be graciously recognized .


60 posted on 12/16/2019 6:43:56 AM PST by patriotspride
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