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To: Openurmind

Fascinating. The ”four points” is exactly what is happening. Biden cheats with Ukraine, changed to make it Trump with Russia, media supports...pretty amazing analysis if what we are seeing. Too bad Fox seems in concert with CNN...and Chris Wallace has turned into a disaster and a liar.


4 posted on 11/29/2019 5:28:35 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (Congress is not made up of leaders however they are representatives of their voters.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Yeah, I turn off the TV when Wallace or Donna Brazil on. I hate being lied to. One hotel had OAN on the roster and it was shocking to hear so much pure news in a half an hour it was like a time warp.back to when news was not a massive opinion piecework.

We miss so much news now it’s crazy. There is a whole world out there!


6 posted on 11/29/2019 5:36:28 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag; nathanbedford; Alberta's Child; chris37
But wait, there's more.

The endgame was US war with Russia, with the casus bellorum provided by people in Ukraine acting in their own interest.

Now, the Ukrainians working this angle had allies in the US State and Defense departments. The "let's you and him fight" crowd never had total control of policy (Victoria Nuland I'm looking at you) but internal power dynamics at State were definitely involved.

There was plenty of precedent for the US armed forces being fooled (seduced is probably a better word) into taking on enemies of other countries by disguising their self-interest as us fighting for "freedom" or "democracy".

The color revolution, the Maidan events, the installation of a Deep State friendly government went smoothly.

Insuring the election of HRC was a step too far - but it was a near run thing, with results still not totally known - although I believe things are looking up at last.

It's not just the biggest political story in US history - it's the biggest political story in WORLD history. I suspect, if and when the whole story is known, that the Ukrainian forces behind this will turn out to have been a minority of a minority.

31 posted on 11/29/2019 7:46:51 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Chris Wallace is auditioning for a job with one of the heritage networks. He cares little what the FOX audience thinks of him.


35 posted on 11/29/2019 9:34:15 AM PST by Bookshelf
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Another something many of us are missing from this while thing is the following:

The DOJ will NOT investigate/prosecute themselves. Horowitz report will NOT expose those that the top of political bias or corruption. To do so would cause too many issues and would allow criminals to have their cases retried and expose other corrupt deep state power brokers & politicians. So they are going to pin this on some low level people using the same techniques they used to get Flynn to plead guilty.

And here’s the kicker this is WHY Trump was pressing Ukraine to investigate Biden and Crowd Strike! He knows Barr isn’t going to do crap about this. He knows Barr is working on a strategy to help save the deep state top brass while also trying to show he did something to restore faith in gov’t. Well half-measures won’t work. And we need to start calling Bullcrap on this before the report is out. Let them know we won’t stand for it. They need to expose the top level corruption we know that is going on. We can’t allow two tiered justice to continue in the US.


104 posted on 12/01/2019 1:01:34 PM PST by for-q-clinton
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