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To: zeestephen

>>>How come Trump, Trump’s lawyers, and Trump’s media people did not publish this same information months ago?

Because it is easily debunked.

1. Crowdstrike is not an obscure Ukranian owned company. It is a leading, US based cybersecurity firm that is publicly traded on the NASDAQ.

2. The founder is not a Ukranian oligarch. He is Russian born US citizen who worked at McAfee prior to starring his own firm.

3. There is no missing server secreted away to Ukraine. CrowdStrike was the firm the Democratic National Committee called in 2016 after the organization discovered that hackers had broken into its email and chat systems and stolen data. As part of that remediation, the DNC, CrowdStrike, and government investigators had to decommission more than 140 servers, remove and reinstall all software, including the operating systems, for more than 180 computers, and rebuild at least 11 servers.

When CrowdStrike or another firm investigates an incident, they typically don’t physically remove a client’s devices. Instead, they make “images” of the hard drive and memory of every relevant device so that they can preserve a sort of snapshot of the compromised systems.

In other words, there is no missing server. There’s no physical box locked away in a vault somewhere. There are simply copies of what the DNC’s systems looked like at the time of the attack, which both CrowdStrike and the DNC confirm were shared with the FBI during the investigation.


23 posted on 11/29/2019 6:56:36 AM PST by oincobx
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To: oincobx

I don’t have time to answer your post until this evening.

However, thanks for posting all the MSM and Democrat Party talking points.


29 posted on 11/29/2019 7:25:47 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: oincobx; zeestephen
In other words, there is no missing server. There’s no physical box locked away in a vault somewhere. There are simply copies of what the DNC’s systems looked like at the time of the attack, which both CrowdStrike and the DNC confirm were shared with the FBI during the investigation.

WOW! A Wired article? Really?

How Trump’s Ukraine Mess Entangled CrowdStrike

In other words, there is no missing server. There's no physical box locked away in a vault somewhere. There are simply copies of what the DNC's systems looked like at the time of the attack, which both CrowdStrike and the DNC confirm were shared with the FBI during the investigation, no U-Haul required.

You should provide links, oincobx.

42 posted on 11/29/2019 2:16:37 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: oincobx
And we'll just blow that whole "we shared it with the FBI" BS right out of the water right now!

Full text: James Comey testimony transcript on Trump and Russia

COMEY: In the case of the DNC, and I believe the D triple C, but I'm sure the DNC, we did not have access to the devices themselves. We got relevant forensic information from a private party, a high class entity, that had done the work but we didn't get direct access.
BURR: But no content.
COMEY: Correct.
BURR: Isn't content an important part of the forensics from a counter-intelligence standpoint?
COMEY: It is but what was briefed to me by the people who were my folks at the time is that they had gotten the information from the private party that they needed to understand the intrusion by the spring of 2016.
Crowdstrike didn't turn over “images” of the hard drive and memory...according to Comey. They turned over information.
And he doesn't mention getting anything from the DNC either. JUST Crowd Strike. You know, that high class private party/entity.

CrowdStrikeOut: Mueller’s Own Report Undercuts Its Core Russia-Meddling Claims

Further, the government allowed CrowdStrike and the Democratic Party's legal counsel to submit redacted records, meaning CrowdStrike and not the government decided what could be revealed or not regarding evidence of hacking. Odd! If I had "images" of a server and a federal IT forensic department funded through the wazoo with hundreds of employees.../conjecture...but I digress. Back to the known...

Here is the ONLY source I can find of this "sharing"...
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-missing-dnc-server-is-neither-missing-nor-a-server

“The FBI was given images of servers, forensic copies, as well as a host of other forensic information we collected from our systems,” said Adrienne Watson, the DNC’s deputy communications director. “We were in close contact and worked cooperatively with the FBI and were always responsive to their requests. Any suggestion that they were denied access to what they wanted for their investigation is completely incorrect.”
The FBI declined comment for this story, but in testimony before the House Intelligence Committee last year, then-director James Comey said that Crowdstrike “ultimately shared with us their forensics.”
Requests from Comey's people. Catch that? What if they didn't request anything?
With Mueller investigation, FBI gets chance to physically inspect 'hacked' DNC computers“The DNC coordinated with the FBI and federal intelligence agencies and provided everything they requested, including copies of DNC servers,” Adrienne Watson, deputy director of DNC communications, told The Washington Times. “Conspiracy theories from the president suggesting otherwise are false.ONE woman says it happened.

We're to believe that the FBI had all of this information yet they relied completely and totally upon Crowd Strike's analysis.

The “server” Trump is obsessed with is actually 140 servers, most of them cloud-based...
The FBI has images of 140 servers...
If true, think about the storage capacity needed to "image" aaaaaaaaall of that information to be able to hand it over.

Pardon my skepticism if I don't believe the DNC turned over SQUAT to the FBI.

43 posted on 11/29/2019 3:25:23 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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