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To: Kalamata; rockrr; x
Kalamata on Paul Craig Roberts: "As you can see, I am not necessarily a fan.
Some of his economic stuff is good, and he is right on the money about the oppressive nature of the tariffs against the southern states.
However, I defended him ONLY because some jackass played the “holocaust denier” card.
I despise those who attempt to shut down debate with aspersions."

I never heard of Roberts before, so have no dog in this fight.
But from the looks here it appears that Roberts is a more consistent America-hating denier than, for example, our new FRiend Danny Kalamata.
Unlike Kalamata, Roberts takes his loathing for the USA to its ultimate conclusions, blaming us for such things as the Second World War and also denying the Holocaust.

Apparently Kalamata is more than happy to start down that road -- i.e., blaming everyone but Confederate leaders for the Civil War, implying that Allied "injustice" contributed to WWII -- but he stops short at going the Full Monty regarding Holocaust denial.
Indeed, as we see here, Danny takes great umbrage at any suggestions that his Holocaust fly is down.

As someone who's debated at great length against both Holocaust deniers (~20 years ago) and Danny Kalamata (not about the Holocaust), I can attest the coincidences of similar debate tactics seem far too many to be mere... "coincidence".
It makes me wonder if there isn't some school somewhere teaching how to deny reality, fit those tactics to whatever subject you wish.
Or maybe it's simply a matter of, ahem... undirected, random convergent evolution of denial tactics?

For example, watch how Kalamata responds to this post -- he will not admit that he uses the same debate tactics as Holocaust deniers, rather he will take great umbrage in high dudgeon against my alleged accusation that he is a Holocaust denier, how could I be such a "jackass"?

The truth is I do call out and hope to stop dishonest debate, but Kalamata's basic problem is he really knows no other, ahem, kind.

114 posted on 12/15/2019 5:13:29 AM PST by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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To: BroJoeK

>>Kalamata on Paul Craig Roberts: “As you can see, I am not necessarily a fan. Some of his economic stuff is good, and he is right on the money about the oppressive nature of the tariffs against the southern states. However, I defended him ONLY because some jackass played the “holocaust denier” card. I despise those who attempt to shut down debate with aspersions.”
>>Joey said: “I never heard of Roberts before, so have no dog in this fight. But from the looks here it appears that Roberts is a more consistent America-hating denier than, for example, our new FRiend Danny Kalamata. Unlike Kalamata, Roberts takes his loathing for the USA to its ultimate conclusions, blaming us for such things as the Second World War and also denying the Holocaust.”

I see Joey is back with his “Perpetual Slander Machine.” Joey cannot debate the issues without slandering someone. It is in his progressive blood.

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>>Joey said: “Apparently Kalamata is more than happy to start down that road — i.e., blaming everyone but Confederate leaders for the Civil War, implying that Allied “injustice” contributed to WWII — but he stops short at going the Full Monty regarding Holocaust denial.”

You got part of it right. The constitution is not a menu, so as a constitutionalist I am obliged to support the right of the states to succeed. The primary reason for their succession appears to have been the threat of an oppressive tariff, tied to a history of at least one other oppressive tariff against the South.

I have been a WWII historian for over 40 years, and am not aware of any Allied injustice, except perhaps by the Soviets near the end of the war.

Joey labeled me a holocaust denier during our last “conversation” after I challenged Joey’s “love-affair” with the far-left, climate-change promoting, conservative-hating atheist named Michael Shermer (plus, I mocked his religion of evolutionism.)

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>>Joey said: “Indeed, as we see here, Danny takes great umbrage at any suggestions that his Holocaust fly is down.
As someone who’s debated at great length against both Holocaust deniers (~20 years ago) and Danny Kalamata (not about the Holocaust), I can attest the coincidences of similar debate tactics seem far too many to be mere... “coincidence”.

Joey has never debated a holocaust denier; but if you challenge his leftist ideology he will label you one, and then pretend he is debating a holocaust denier.

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>>Joey said: “It makes me wonder if there isn’t some school somewhere teaching how to deny reality, fit those tactics to whatever subject you wish.”

From what I have read from you, that school is your Alma Mater, Joey.

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>>Joey said: “Or maybe it’s simply a matter of, ahem... undirected, random convergent evolution of denial tactics?”

LOL! Joey is one of those scientifically-challenged types who believes everything is evidence of the nutty theory of evolution.

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>>Joey said: “For example, watch how Kalamata responds to this post — he will not admit that he uses the same debate tactics as Holocaust deniers, rather he will take great umbrage in high dudgeon against my alleged accusation that he is a Holocaust denier, how could I be such a “jackass”?”

You don’t have to try hard to be a jackass, Joey That is one of the hallmarks of progressive behavior.

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>>Joey said: “The truth is I do call out and hope to stop dishonest debate, but Kalamata’s basic problem is he really knows no other, ahem, kind.”

The best way for you to help stop dishonest debate, Joey, is for you to quit debating.

Mr. Kalamata


118 posted on 12/16/2019 8:25:56 PM PST by Kalamata (BIBLE RESEARCH TOOLS: http://bibleresearchtools.com/)
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