Posted on 09/21/2019 12:52:37 PM PDT by ransomnote
Did House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff have the inside details about the Trump whistleblower two weeks ago?
Earlier this month, the California Democrat announced a “wide-ranging investigation” into allegations President Trump was trying to pressure Ukraine’s government into aiding his reelection campaign.
Schiff ordered the investigation on Sept. 9, hours before he received the first of two letters from the intelligence community inspector general revealing the existence of a whistleblower complaint. Multiple news outlets reported this week that the complaint involved, at least in part, a phone conversation between Trump and recently elected Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Inspector General Michael K. Atkinson's letter didn't provide Schiff with the details, but some Republicans say they suspect Schiff knew them already and was orchestrating a headline-grabbing story from his perch on the intelligence panel.
Earlier on the day the Atkinson letter arrived, Schiff demanded the Trump administration turn over documents and correspondence related to Trump’s alleged attempts to get Ukraine government officials to investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter.
Included in his list was the transcript of Trump's July 25 call with Zelensky, which news reports say alarmed the whistleblower.
Schiff insisted to reporters Thursday that he doesn’t know the details of the complaint and accused the president of “trying to stifle whistleblower complaints" and blocking the information from reaching Congress.
Joseph Maguire, Trump’s acting director of national intelligence, is restricting Atkinson from providing any details about the complaint, Schiff charged after he and other intelligence panel members met privately Thursday with Atkinson.
But news reports soon emerged saying it involved the call with Zelensky and matched Schiff’s comments about the matter Sept. 9.
In a press release that day, Schiff announced an investigation by the intelligence, foreign affairs, and oversight panels into efforts by Trump and his attorney former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani to get Ukraine government officials to turn over information about Joe Biden, the leading Democratic presidential candidate.
Trump and Giuliani have been seeking data on Biden’s role, while he was vice president under Barack Obama, in pressuring the Ukraine government to fire a prosecutor targeting a Ukrainian gas company on whose board Biden’s son Hunter served.
“While his personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani pressures Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 campaign, Trump withholds vital aid Ukraine needs to defend against Russia,” Schiff tweeted Sept. 9.
Schiff’s representative did not respond to a request for a comment about the fact the Ukraine investigation was ordered the same day Atkinson sent the letter about the whistleblower complaint.
The congressman contends he does not know the identity of the whistleblower or the nature of the complaint and has threatened to take the Trump administration to court to win access to the information.
Schiff’s announcement of the Ukraine investigation also followed a New York Times investigation into the matter.
In his Sept. 9 letter to White House counsel Pat Cipollone, Schiff demanded the Ukraine call transcript be turned over to the committee by Sept. 16, a deadline that passed without any cooperation from the White House.
Two days later, the first leaked whistleblower story appeared in the news.
The supposed whistleblower should not go to a party at Ed Buck’s apartment.
I’m thinking the upcoming IG report on the FISA abuses is particularly damning.
Schiff for brains is a DISASTER for the DEMOCRATS!
It seems reasonably obvious that a 'bamanista DS intel person heard POTUS discussing with Ukraine a crime that Joe Biden may have committed and the only legal way to get this intel to the Dems was to go to a 'bamanista DS ICIG who is required by law to report a whistleblower complaint to the House Intel Comte.
Adam Schiff was first alerted by unrecorded means so that he could quickly turn the tables to appear that it is Prez Trump now colluding with the Ukrainians... then - whadda ya know - a few hours later an ICIG whistleblower report arrived saying just exactly what Schiff has suspected.
Now we have spent a week raving about Prez Trump being impeached for actually talking to foreign leaders. Why? So that no attention is drawn to Joe Biden's extraordinary - and self-admitted - dealings with the Ukrainian President about interfering in internal corruption investigations.
Today's 'rat Party is made up of vicious lying scheming Bolshevics who not only consider themselves above the law, they consider themselves to be the law.
It is up to AG William Barr to disavow them of that notion . . . otherwise we are living in a growing tyranny.
Trump puts Crazy Glue on the grenades, and they never figure it out until after they pull the pin.
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very funny
Multiple news outlets reported this week that the complaint involved, at least in part, a phone conversation between Trump and recently elected Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky.
Inspector General Michael K. Atkinson's letter didn't provide Schiff with the details, but some Republicans say they suspect Schiff knew them already and was orchestrating a headline-grabbing story from his perch on the intelligence panel.(NO DOUBT)
Earlier on the day the Atkinson letter arrived, Schiff demanded the Trump administration turn over documents and correspondence related to Trump’s alleged attempts to get Ukraine government officials to investigate Joe Biden and his son Hunter. Included in his list was the transcript of Trump's July 25 call with Zelensky, which news reports say alarmed the whistleblower.
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I don't know if there is a thread on this or not I've been out of town but it appears that the whistle blower (which is quite a reach on what the real definition is)is Former DNI Deputy Director Sue Gordon.
Hardly, what I think of when I think of the definition of a whistle blower but than the dems are rather desperate as they show almost 24/7.
Also if you were CIA and were goIng to design the perfect op to keep trying to take out Trump why not use someone with a 25 year CIA track record.Someone impeccable.Someone who could play the female card.Someone who has history with all the top criminal CIA types from 41 to special asst. to the director of the CIA John (I'm a closet muzzie)Brennan.Someone who reveres current director Gina Haspel who has a similar history to Gordon.
Yeah when you think about doing a company op that would keep trying to take down Trump after the Russian collusion BS and the other 25 odd ops already tried or still in play Sue Gordon would be the perfect choice.
George Webb thought so and he's the one who named her the whistle blower.
The link to Webb calling Gordon the whistle blower is below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGxx30Yb0Ok
Wow great post here,lots of work.
Schiff could easily have been in cahoots with Sue Gordon to create the op with whomever does this stuff at the company and wala you have the drivebys changing the news cycle from ozero and Biden gave Ukraine 6 hours to get rid of investigator of Hunter biden corruption to keep a billions bucks from flying away.The new driveby story is: Trump is trying to bribe Ukrainian officials. Slick as it gets.
It is likely Schiff was in cahoots with someone. Who it is doesn't really matter. It is the seriousness of the charge that matters. The person doing the supposed whistle blowing gets to hide behind the whistle blower act.
THat’s true but if you are a recently resigned deputy director of DNI and now you are posing as a whistle blower something sorta smells about that, IMHO.
The whistleblower reportedly went to the IC IG three days after Gordon’s resignation and three days before Maguire took over as acting DNI.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/08/09/sue-gordons-subtle-significant-trump-protest/
Sue Gordon’s subtle but significant Trump protest
August 9
Mr. President –
I offer this letter as an act of respect & patriotism, not preference. You should have your team.
Godspeed,
Sue
(snip)
Her decision to memorialize her disappointment in a note is significant. Top government officials often resign voluntarily when the president no longer desires their service, but they generally don’t let it be known that they were forced out. It’s possible this is just Gordon’s personal disappointment boiling over, but you don’t write a note like that unless you’re trying to convey something. And it’s an especially conspicuous decision for a career intelligence officer, a job that is big on deference to authority and where notoriety is seen as something to be avoided.
It’s not difficult to read Gordon’s letter as a warning sign about where she fears the DNI might be headed going forward. ...
I’d be more inclined to believe someone at DOS made up some stuff about Trump and passed it off to someone to an IC agency. We shall see.
Rather is just appears to me that Maguire is not going to buy into the "company's" latest plot/op to give the impeachment idiots any ammo at all.Let them impeach Trump for nada, zip, zero and see how far they get.
As for the link to the Washington Post my guess is you used them not because you are in love with the WaPost as few of us are here on FR but due to the fact that they ironically committed a random act of journalism which does happen from time to time.
Once again they are not my favorite source but from time to time you might go there. Happens to me as well. Here's a clip from their link:
It’s not difficult to read Gordon’s letter as a warning sign about where she fears the DNI might be headed going forward. Trump has made little secret of his disdain for some of the intelligence community’s actions and conclusions,(like the Arab spring,Iran contra,isis,cia smuggling all over the world,and on and on) and Ratcliffe’s nomination clearly indicated Trump would like more of a loyalist in that job.(why wouldn't he?) What the drivebys do so often is leave out lots of key, important info like the fact that Trump was tipped off that Gordon is likely "deep state".She has all the wrong credentials for working with him and should be avoided at and and all costs.Her association with Brennan alone as his "special asst. to the director" should rule her out for any position in a trump administration,IMHO.
This all comes from George Webb,here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGxx30Yb0Ok
He has a pretty good record.
He will take raw news,uproven,digest it and predict what will happen.It’s seldom done by anyone else since it really doesn’t pass true journalistic standards. Problem is for those who don’t like Webb is that he keeps coming up smelling like roses since his predictions are seldom wrong.
I agree with you, and am no fan of either Salan or WaPo. But, occasionally, and perhaps accidentally, random acts of journalism are hidden in these hit pieces.
Salon pointed to the whistleblower timeline.
WaPo suggested a Gordon motive being a “heartbroken”, disgruntled Brennan/Clapper/Coats loyalist. She’s “team” deep state, not “team’ Trump. Maybe she was a Schiff conduit.
Still troubling is why Pence recommended Coats in the first place.
I took a listen to Webb. It is certainly plausible. Spurned woman syndrome, etc. If that scenario is somewhat accurate, one of 2 things happened. IC was directly spying on Trump or an analyst was reviewing conversations of recorded messages they had of the Ukrainian President.
Interesting stuff. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
Lost me on the WTC7 segment and the ‘controlled demolition claim.
h/t Pelham...
“The fire in WTC 7 wasn’t minimal.
Water supply lines to WTC 7 and its sprinkler systems were broken by the collapse of the twin towers
and WTC 7 suffered uncontrolled fires on ten floors for seven hours before it too collapsed.
Diesel for backup generators was stored in the building but most of the fuel for fire was from ordinary office furnishings.
Fire caused thermal expansion and warping of steel frame members.
Eventually a girder on floor 13 separated from the column that it was attached to, setting off a cascading series of failures like dominoes falling.”
‘This is all examined in the NIST study that of course no one reads because it’s not nearly as entertaining as conspiracy theory.’
https://www.nist.gov/.../world-trade-center-disaster-study
My pleasure. Largely automated. :^)
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