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To: Black Agnes

I think there may be a simpler explanation for Epstein’s (JE) death.

I believe JE thought he could get out on bail and was shocked that it was denied. Then, when in a cell with two other inmates (incl: one body-building former cop), JE either picks a fight or starts hitting himself to show that he is at risk for being hurt/murdered. The former cop stops the process and calls for help.

JE then tells his lawyers that he is being harassed and will likely die from prisoner violence against him.

During this process, JE tells everyone that he is NOT suicidal and just wants to get out on bail to save his life and go to trial (or cut a deal). He is probably willing to have his leg amputated above the ankle bracelet in order to pull off an “El Chapo”/Mission Impossible escape to some unknown part of the world.

So, JE is never really put on a strict suicide watch.

Then, on Friday night, he realizes that the document dump has doomed his chances of getting out on bail. Despondent, he decides to hang himself with his pants tied to the cell bars and just needs a few inches to induce suffocation (credit: Brian Cates’ idea).

Since he is not on suicide watch and this is all done quietly, it takes a while before he is noticed, but it is too late and he dies.

The prison is shocked because they did not think he was a suicide risk as long as he was not getting beat up.

Much simpler story and it explains why the prison was so lax in observing him.


2,021 posted on 08/11/2019 6:13:18 AM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Yeah.

It all boils down to two things:

They let him be killed.

They allowed him to commit suicide.

Neither are good looks.

He was arguably one of the most important fed prisoners of the last 10 or 20 years. So the day a lot of really incriminating evidence comes out you take him off suicide watch, allow the camera in his unit to fail and let the guards inexplicably be missing for several hours (instead of the every 30m checks)...?

They’re either incompetent, or in on it.

BTW, nobody thinks it was suicide. With what? More than one person has posted their experiences even in ‘the drunk tank’. They weren’t ALLOWED anything with which to commit suicide. Not their clothing, not their blankets, no place in their cells from which to hang.


2,024 posted on 08/11/2019 6:17:19 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
" the prison was so lax in observing him."

Stupid, stupid, myopic, and irresponsible, if this is how it happened.

Glad you nailed it though. The prison was lax in observing him, obviously.

Someone at the top of a food chain somewhere needs to lose a job at least over this. Especially if someone has had dealings with Epstein in the past, either in his personal life like say at school or work, or if someone has had previous experience with Epstein in previous legal cases and the preferential sentencing he's received in his previous criminal cases.

If I knew of someone like that, who is high in the DOJ I'd certainly be sitting them down in the hot seat if I were the boss.

2,026 posted on 08/11/2019 6:23:37 AM PDT by OKSooner
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Except that the clothes are paper and won’t hold weight.


2,185 posted on 08/11/2019 12:08:28 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The internet has driven the world mad.)
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