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Someone elsewhere pointed out that in one of the photos of JE being wheeled out, his hands were on top of his body, but his arm was outside the rail.

So what was holding his hand up? If he was dead, either his elbow/arm should have been on the gurney or else his arm should have been hanging down outside the gurney.

I’m not an expert in rigor mortis, but my understanding is that it doesn’t kick in for a few hours. So if I’m right about that, that is not a possible explanation, either.


1,673 posted on 08/10/2019 2:42:54 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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It’s possible his hands were handcuffed together, set at waist level or higher, and shifted to the left so left elbow hung down past the rail.


1,701 posted on 08/10/2019 3:12:03 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000)
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It looked to me like his hands were cuffed together with a zip tie across the front of the body. I thought I could see a little bit of the zip tie. The medics were still bagging him so they weren’t sure whether he was alive or dead at that point. I assumed it must be standard procedure to keep a prisoner patient cuffed lest he feign unconsciousness and then grab an attendant by the throat.


1,768 posted on 08/10/2019 4:36:01 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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