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I think the problem, now, is that the entire world (media, narrative molders) see OchoChan as a force of evil and now mitigates against it. Overall, FR supports OchoChan but that support is secreted into our own little corner.

Like it or not, FR does not want to be viewed as an OchoChan supporter lest some of it rub off on the public persona.

Oddly, enough, there are many here that mitigate *against* the work of OchoChan and overtly attempt to ostracize those who point such patriotic work. Go figger.

Whatever baggage OctoChan has, it has. Both sides of that debate are entrenched. To those who know, OctoChan is no more evil today than it was a week ago. Most people don;t know one way or the other, and will accept that it is evil. That's always been the case.

Same sort of baggage attaches to CNN. I find it to be dishonest and evil. Fake News, whatever. Same with MSNBC and most of the other media outlets. Toxic to society, but for reasons different from free speech being risky.

I don't find it odd in the least that FR is loaded with entrenched posters. It's pretty easy to form an opinion as to which of them are my personal enemy, and I just consider them as such and act accordingly. No harm, they are faceless posters who, for all I know are acting a bit part here.