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Have an old car? You’re not alone. Vehicle age hits record
AP ^ | June 27, 2019 | Staff

Posted on 06/28/2019 4:07:48 AM PDT by C19fan

The average age of cars and trucks in the U.S. has hit a record 11.8 years, as better quality and technology allows people to keep them on the road longer. The 2019 figures from data provider IHS Markit show that the rate of increase is slowing, but the average age is still expected to go over 12 years early in the next decade. The average age is up 0.1 years from 2018. People are feeling comfortable keeping vehicles longer because they’re built better than in the past, said IHS Markit Director of Global Automotive Aftermarket Mark Seng. “The quality is higher, lasting longer, withstanding the weather,” Seng said.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automotive; cars
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To: 21twelve
I just got a thumbs up in my 1997 Buick LeSabre from a couple of kids driving similar.

I rented one of those when I got married in Canada, ferrying guests from Edmonton to Grande Prairie, Alberta. Then it was the honeymoon car as well. Good wheels. The 3800 engine is very reliable. You made a good choice. (Though I would have preferred the Park Avenue)
121 posted on 06/28/2019 8:04:41 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("...a choice between Woke-fevered Democrats and Koch-funded Republicans is insufficient."-Mark Steyn)
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To: C19fan

My 2003 Subaru Forester now has nearly 250,000 miles on it.

Only problem with Subis of this vintage is the engine rebuilds that become mandatory every 80 to 90 k miles because of the notorious head gasket issue.

Next car will be a Honda, either a CRV or a Fit.


122 posted on 06/28/2019 8:04:55 AM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.r)
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To: daler

That car is new in my mind! Keep it, change the oil religiously, keep the brakes maintained and put Michelin Defenders on it....also replace the timing belt every 100k and youve got a car for the long haul.


123 posted on 06/28/2019 8:06:11 AM PDT by LumberJack53213
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To: Georgia Girl 2
We have two 2002 CRVs, and a '96 V8 Grand Cherokee, and only one has less than 200K. All run like Swiss watches. Here are my thoughts and tips.

(1) Metal alloys used in the engines are much better these days. When was the last time you saw a car with a blue cloud behind it? When was the last time you needed a ring and valve job?

(2) Synthetic oil is a godsend. Use it religiously.

(3) Electronic fuel control is another godsend. Don't be cheap: replace every sensor every 80-100K. 1/10 of a volt variance in a sensor's performance makes a big difference. You've gotten you money's worth out of them and they are cheap. Replace your injectors too, and while you're at it, replace the coil packs.

(4) Replace your fuel pump every 100K, no matter what. It's like putting an 18 year-old's heart into an 80 year old man. You'll notice the power curve extending up another 1-2K.

(5) Replace your intake gasket at 100K. Don't argue about it, it leaks no mater what you believe, and you'll notice the difference.

(6) Finally, add one or two more grounding straps from the negative battery terminal to the chassis and the engine block. This is cheap and easy and has a big effect (I find). As noted before, sensors work on 1/10 of a volt. Most engine sensors pick up the negative lead from the block, which is grounded in only one spot, and this gets corroded and fouled with grease over time. If that connection is not 100%, your sensor will not function as it did when the engine was new. Adding new paths to ground keeps the sensors working as designed.

124 posted on 06/28/2019 8:06:20 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I traded in a 2007 CR-V last year with 150K miles for a 2012 CR-V with 90K miles. The reason I went with a 2012 was because I wanted the rear-view camera, and the 2012 model was the first CR-V to have it.


125 posted on 06/28/2019 8:07:35 AM PDT by IndyTiger
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To: C19fan

In response the auto industry can:

a) cut their prices, or

b) go to Washington and lobby for environmental regulation that will force your old car off the road

Which do YOU think they will do?


126 posted on 06/28/2019 8:09:50 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: silent_jonny
"Buy a used Toyota!"

People hold on to them until they are used up. I bought my wife a 2018 Avalon, and am satisfied with it. For old cars, I like to go with GM for availability of parts, picking the right drivetrain. Unfortunately, Phoenix emissions forced me to part with my 1994 Buick Roadmaster station wagon (LT-1 engione). Now THAT is a car.
127 posted on 06/28/2019 8:10:11 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("...a choice between Woke-fevered Democrats and Koch-funded Republicans is insufficient."-Mark Steyn)
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To: C19fan

A few years ago, I purchased a Toyota Tundra new. After a lifetime of buying used, I bought new because a new one was only $2,000 more than a used one equipped the same with 25K miles. Hopefully, I will enjoy the same value retention.

In all, my Tundra was $56,000. A new GM or Ford similarly equipped were $70K or more. Tundra was made in San Antonio, Ford in Mexico and GMC in Fort Wayne.


128 posted on 06/28/2019 8:13:21 AM PDT by IamConservative (I was nervous like the third chimp in line for the Ark after rain had started falling.)
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To: silent_jonny

I love that guy.


129 posted on 06/28/2019 8:16:13 AM PDT by Califreak (If Obama had been treated like Trump the US would have been burnt down before Inauguration Day)
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To: C19fan

My 2003 Subaru Forester now has nearly 250,000 miles on it.

Only problem with Subis of this vintage is the engine rebuilds that become mandatory every 80 to 90 k miles because of the notorious head gasket issue.

Next car will be a Honda, either a CRV or a Fit.


130 posted on 06/28/2019 8:16:24 AM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.r)
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To: PUGACHEV

bttt


131 posted on 06/28/2019 8:17:05 AM PDT by timestax
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To: C19fan

Detroit is designing cars to last 7 years. At least if you’re in a State with snow/salt/rust.

Everything goes. Transmissions, seals, gaskets, bushings, etc, the body starts to rust. Then you get to 7 years and you’re told you have more repairs than the car is really worth.

It’s happening with Ford, GM, and Chrysler. I’ve had this happen with multiple vehicles.

I wouldn’t agree that the quality is so great - even brands that used to be considered high quality, like Nissan, have gone down hill - since they merged with Renault.

I’ll never buy a brand new car again. I’ll review reliability ratings and go with whatever brand is best - it just costs too much to do otherwise. At least a lot of “foreign” vehicles are at least made in the USA.


132 posted on 06/28/2019 8:19:57 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: IndyTiger

We put high end Pioneer navigation car radios in our CRVs, in part because they come with rear view/side view, and front view cameras. I don’t use it, but there is a feature which allows the rear view camera to remain on while driving. I find it too distracting, but it does give an excellent view of your blind spots.


133 posted on 06/28/2019 8:20:00 AM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: C19fan

I drive a 1965 Buick Skylark around town. However it does have an LS motor in it. Hehehehehe


134 posted on 06/28/2019 8:21:42 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: C19fan

There is one other factor not discussed in the comments (yet).

Property tax.

Keeping an old car saves a ton in annual property tax as the value of old cars in relatively low. As property tax rates continue to rise the cost/benefit continues to shift to older vehicles.


135 posted on 06/28/2019 8:23:52 AM PDT by cgbg (Democracy dies in darkness when Bezos bans books.)
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To: Catmom
My 2003 Subaru Forester now has nearly 250,000 miles on it.

No head gasket problem yet (fingers crossed). Best winter vehicle I have ever owned. Minor corrosion near the gas fill inside door. Probably a gasohol issue.

I generally work at home and then fly to where I'm going. With a little over 110K, I don't see the need to buy a new car for a long time.

Did replace the struts recently. That is a common issue for many vehicles here in western PA because of road conditions and deicing.
136 posted on 06/28/2019 8:28:37 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: cgbg

The only property tax I pay is based on the value of my house.

There are jurisdictions (other than the DMV) that tax your CAR?


137 posted on 06/28/2019 8:32:49 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: dsrtsage

>>>My FJ40 is 52 years old<<<

Love those. A Neighbor of my S-I-L has one and it looks brand new. They are worth a fortune.

My Brother bought one decades ago with the intention of throwing a 327 Chevy in it. That was until he got an offer he couldn’t refuse.


138 posted on 06/28/2019 8:47:34 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (THEY LIVE, and we're the only ones wearing the Sunglasses.)
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To: CopperTop

May be wet behind the ears, but this E350XL went with me to Sierra Leone and spent three years picking up people for a Baptist church in Freetown. One tough mama of a van.


139 posted on 06/28/2019 8:59:35 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: C19fan

currently 13 years, last one was 22 years


140 posted on 06/28/2019 9:07:06 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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