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Flat-Earthers' Cruise Will Sail to Antarctica 'Ice Wall' at the Planet's Edge. Right.
Live Science ^ | 3/22/2019

Posted on 06/19/2019 11:08:33 AM PDT by Gamecock

Organizers of an annual conference that brings together people who believe that the Earth is flat are planning a cruise to the purported edge of the planet. They're looking for the ice wall that holds back the oceans.

The journey will take place in 2020, the Flat Earth International Conference (FEIC) recently announced on its website. The goal? To test so-called flat-Earthers' assertion that Earth is a flattened disk surrounded at its edge by a towering wall of ice.

Believers in a flat Earth argue that images showing a curved horizon are fake and that photos of a round Earth from space are part of a vast conspiracy perpetrated by NASA and other space agencies to hide Earth's flatness. These and other flat-Earth assertions appear on the website of the Flat Earth Society (FES), allegedly the world's oldest official flat Earth organization, dating to the early 1800s.

Whether or not the FEIC cruise will rely on GPS or deploy an entirely new flat-Earth-based navigation system for finding the end of the world, remains to be seen.

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: antarctic; antarctica; feic; fes; flatearthsociety; itsatroll; whataretheirfrnicks
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To: itsahoot

Of course, but that only explains how the pendulum keeps swinging. It does nothing to explain why the pendulum rotates.


121 posted on 06/21/2019 9:19:32 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman

https://savageplane.wordpress.com/2016/11/20/was-foucaults-pendulum-a-fraud/

This is a good summary of Foucalt’s Pendulum and what was believed at the time of the experiment from both supporters and skeptics. A fan of Foucault’s work was quite disturbed with the anomalies and inconsistencies of the pendulum’s performance. He went to talk with Professor Humboldt to get his input:

“After seeing the pendulum-experiment here also and, strangely, again with a deviation to the left, I went to Alexander v. Humboldt, who was indeed ever the first refuge of those seeking information. He received me very friendly and spoke the memorable words: I have known, too, for a long time, that as yet we have no proof for the Copernican system, but I shall never dare to be the first to attack it. Don’t rush into the wasps’ nest. You will but bring upon yourself the scorn of the thoughtless multitude.”


122 posted on 06/21/2019 10:49:18 AM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: itsahoot

If the camera can see it then the object is not really below the horizon.


123 posted on 06/21/2019 11:16:23 AM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Sioux-san

“This is a good summary of Foucalt’s Pendulum and what was believed at the time of the experiment from both supporters and skeptics.”

Umm, no, that’s a flat earther website offering only sources to support that position, and some quite deceptively. For example, pretending that having to use a motor or magnet to counteract air resistance has something to do with the actual phenomenon that the pendulum demonstrates, when in reality it is just a necessity since we cannot construct perpetual motion machines.


124 posted on 06/21/2019 11:21:00 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
It does nothing to explain why the pendulum rotates.

They don't universally, investigate for yourself. Not saying they don't, just saying they appear to need help getting the predicted result.

There are many puzzling thing that are universally accepted that I don't whole heartedly accept any more.

Cavendish established the universal continent for Gravity over 200 years ago and no one has ever repeated that experiment although we surely have better technology than existed then. We have calculated repeatedly almost every other physical constant, but not that one. In fact the speed of light seems to be slowing down or we are just getting it wrong. Just thing that make me go Hmmnn.

I can remember well the first pictures of the moon landing and have had a hard time believing that those flimsy space suits could protect the astronauts and yet have wrinkles on them. Just the heating and cooling alone would seem to require more energy than they could carry.

125 posted on 06/21/2019 11:29:36 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: itsahoot

“They don’t universally, investigate for yourself.”

If they don’t, then the experiment wasn’t set up properly. It’s not like this experiment hasn’t been duplicated countless times.

Besides, if you doubt Focault’s pendulum, there’s an even easier experiment that requires no fancy setup or electric motors, etc. Just get a basin of water and poke a hole in the bottom to demonstrate the coriolis effect. Then try to explain that away with a flat earth model (including why the water swirls in opposite directions depending on the hemisphere).


126 posted on 06/21/2019 11:32:53 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: precisionshootist
If the camera can see it then the object is not really below the horizon.

Exactly, but that defies the mathematics. Curve is 8 inches per mile squared, so the earth either has to be very lumpy or we don't know what size we are.

127 posted on 06/21/2019 11:33:52 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Boogieman
Just get a basin of water and poke a hole in the bottom to demonstrate the coriolis effect.

Even Snopes rejects this one.

Lot of evidence to the contrary of that claim. Watched a lot of videos of kids on the equator scamming people with there demonstrations. Fun stuff.

128 posted on 06/21/2019 11:40:33 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: itsahoot

Alright, then explain the difference in direction of hurricanes/tornados/typhoons in each hemisphere? How can a flat earth model account for that? Or the patterns of trade winds and why they run in bands moving in opposite directions corresponding to latitude?


129 posted on 06/21/2019 12:18:10 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Sioux-san

Wait...did you actually look at why the live video feed from the moon was the way it was? The website was quite complete. Do you agree with it? ANd what about the hi res images actually carried back to earth?


130 posted on 06/21/2019 12:55:03 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Boogieman
Alright, then explain the difference in direction of hurricanes/tornados/typhoons in each hemisphere? How can a flat earth model account for that?

I m not arguing that the earth inflate, I am saying there are genuine questions the flat earth's are asking that need better explanations. Ridicule is cute but not an answer.

131 posted on 06/21/2019 2:01:19 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: itsahoot

“I am saying there are genuine questions the flat earth’s are asking that need better explanations”

Meh, they won’t accept any explanations that are given to them, they just start saying that any evidence they can’t explain is a hoax created by NASA. We even see that on this thread.


132 posted on 06/21/2019 2:14:39 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: itsahoot

Are you factoring in the refraction of light caused by the atmosphere?


133 posted on 06/21/2019 2:15:36 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Boogieman
Meh, they won’t accept any explanations that are given to them, they just start saying that any evidence they can’t explain is a hoax created by NASA. We even see that on this thread

The do accept genuine answers, at least some of them do but they don't always answer the questions, they pretend the other guys are just stupid and ignore them or claim facts are facts because they say so.

Why does the earth appear to be the same relative size from the moon as the moon does from earth?
Since the moon always present the same face to the earth sort of like a ball on a string why would the earth appear any where except directly over head from near the center of the moon face?

Regale me.

134 posted on 06/21/2019 4:03:10 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Boogieman
Are you factoring in the refraction of light caused by the atmosphere?

That is there first excuse but it doesn't hold up to infrared. The thing that they never consider is the limitation of eyesight itself. We can only see so far down a railroad rack until the parallel tracks converge. Pick up some good optics and they separate again.

These guys have all found the excellent optics on the P900 and P1000 cameras and started taking some cool pictures of things that have apparently disappeared over the horizon when in fact they are just out of eyesight range else you couldn't bring them back up. I haven't looked lately to see what they have been doing with Infrared, need to go catch up a little.

135 posted on 06/21/2019 4:05:24 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: Boogieman
Alright, then explain the difference in direction of hurricanes/tornados/typhoons in each hemisphere? How can a flat earth model account for that? Or the patterns of trade winds and why they run in bands moving in opposite directions corresponding to latitude?

I am no expert nor do I claim to be, I just pointed out that not everyone agrees with you or them.

136 posted on 06/21/2019 4:17:33 PM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: DouglasKC

It would make STanley Kubrick proud!
Space Cowboys was a documentary.
How could I be so blind???


137 posted on 06/21/2019 9:07:13 PM PDT by Sioux-san
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To: Sioux-san
It would make STanley Kubrick proud! Space Cowboys was a documentary. How could I be so blind???

Let's review. You posted a link to a youtube video that made the assertion that the moon landing was faked. Part of the "evidence" was the grainy black and white tv transmission. The video implied that they didn't want anyone to see how it was being faked.

In response I search the internet for 5 minutes looking for the technical details of the photography and video capabilities of Apollo 11. I found a great website that explained in detail WHY the video was black and white and grainy. It was about bandwidth. It was deemed too dangerous to devote too much bandwidth to video because they were essentially transmitting and receiving ALL data over a single carrier.

It was a clear and logical explanation that involved an an explanation of the mission parameters and the technological capabilities.

In response to ALL that you buried your head back into youtube conspiracy videos. You presented no thoughts of your own. You presented no scientific evidence refuting a single thing on the website.

138 posted on 06/23/2019 10:21:59 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Gamecock

We have been deceived by the most intelligent of Gods Cherubs.
The only proof of a flying water ball is the indoctrination all the world has received in the abomination called government schools.
All our senses tell us its fixed and immovable just as Gods Word says it is from the first chapter of His story.
I will do as Paul said in Romans in this case. let God be true, but every man a liar.

Convince me with the Bible that God created a earth that flies at different speeds in 4 directions and I will concede defeat otherwise this realm is flat and everything revolves around us.


139 posted on 06/23/2019 10:47:13 AM PDT by winodog
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To: itsahoot
And I have watched a helicopter (with one of those cameras) disappear below the horizon of a lake. It looked like it landed and then went into the earth. Meanwhile, the people on the helicopter were in contact with the team in charge of the camera. The helicopter was still 30’ off the ground when it disappeared below the horizon. When math was applied, it was a perfect fit to a round earth that is a little less than 8,000 miles in diameter. It’s an experiment anyone with a few hundred bucks and a calculator (and an open mind) can do.

That same team shot a fixed laser at a boat and the laser gained altitude on the side of the boat as the boat gained distance from the shore-moving from 2’ above the water line at the shore to more than 12’ above the boat several miles away. This stuff is pretty simple actually.

140 posted on 06/23/2019 11:03:48 AM PDT by NELSON111 (Congress: The Ralph Wolf and Sam Sheepdog show. Theater for sheep. My politics determines my "hero")
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