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To: DoodleBob

That is not the point

Of course folks get more conservative with age to a degree

The point is kids are more leftist today than ever despite your ire at boomers

No question of that and it’s been trending that way since Magnus

Plus liberalism is more leftist now

Many factors contributing to this are not kids faults

Culture simply brainwashes all but the strong


65 posted on 06/08/2019 1:10:49 PM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: wardaddy

Right. Speaking as a millennial, I agree that there is a huge difference between my generation and the older ones. The fact that people generally get more conservative as they age does not mean that this group will be right-wing in 10 or even 20 years. It just means they will be a little less left wing.

Reality check: Millennials are now in their mid 20s to mid 30s. They aren’t teenagers anymore. Many of them are godless, love big government, hate capitalism, have no appreciation for the family unit, think dogs are their children, and, perhaps most importantly, take no responsibility for ANYTHING and think they are smarter than previous generations simply because as a whole they have more college education. They have no real work ethic, expect to enter management positions due to their “education”, and the list goes on.


68 posted on 06/08/2019 1:38:49 PM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: wardaddy

Also, I’d add that the number one mistake that the millennial parents’ generation made was making excuses for all their little snowflakes. Unfortunately, some people still don’t understand that and you even see it going on in this thread. At some point, you have to accept the hand you were dealt and grow up. Many millennials are in their freaking 30s and still don’t get that. As fun as it might be to pander to them, going along with their delusion that everything in life is the fault of someone else (previous generation, THE MAN, etc.) helps no one. And again, I’m a millennial.


69 posted on 06/08/2019 1:46:18 PM PDT by Stravinsky
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To: wardaddy
That is not the point...The point is kids are more leftist today than ever despite your ire at boomers

I truly enjoy discussing these trends with you.

First, I'd recommend your sentence to be split into its two separate components.

1) If by "ire" you mean I have disdain for Boomers' (and my GenX bretheren, FWIW) lack of recall regarding their own youthful ignorance as they pile on about Millenial stupidity, yes...though indignation may be a more applicable word upon reflection.
2) Your thesis about the relative leftism of Millenials vs youthful Boomers is worthy of investigation.

I have done some cursory research - there are lots of datasets on Millenial views on the subject, but nothing of substance I can find on Boomers' views circa 1965-1978. Now, there were certainly plenty of campus revolts etc in the 1960s, but notwithstanding my previous commentary I know not every Boomer wanted to drop acid and stick to to the man (my Boomer uncle actually punched out a hippie staging a sit-in).

Alternatively, regarding Millenials, of course many of them have disturbingly positive views on society and socialism etc. But, as I've written elsewhere, disentangling the extent to which, as you correctly note -

Plus liberalism is more leftist now Many factors contributing to this are not kids faults Culture simply brainwashes all but the strong

from that inherent in the culture of Millenials is, I believe, where the debate turns.

Millenials are more diverse than other generations in terms of race and ancestry. When I was a kid, there were not many other kids that weren't first/second/third generation WASPs. Nowadays, classrooms look like the UN...I'm not saying that is inherently bad (classrooms in the 1930s undoubtedly were mixed, i.e. Italians and Irish and German etc.) but it DOES contribute to the exposure Millenials have to outside ideas. Where this diversity can go sideways is a function of the extent to which the schoolmates integrate into American culture vs try to change culture.

If this cultural change occurs swiftly in the Millenial ranks, as you hint, then surely parents - especially Deplorable ones - have to be somewhat responsible. I know it's hard raising kids nowadays - I have my own DoodleBob jrs - but hard isn't impossible.

In closing, I admit mine is a biased sample but the Millenials with whom I have contact are NOT Pod-eaters. I also see Millenials who are Normal being peeved at how the pod-eaters get all the attention. Their backlash materializes in high employment and, hopefully, Trumpian voting patterns. It is THESE men and women of whom I write when these bash pieces are published: yes, I find these pieces irksome, but I also believe those on the bubble are at risk of falling off the fence onto the MSNBC side OR they will simply check out and not vote for Trump. We won by 76k votes last time...we need all the help we can get.

87 posted on 06/08/2019 11:12:45 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s^2)
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