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Towards the effort and bravery of the Russian soldiers. They fought damned hard against a flat out evil invader. And did so with a had tied behind their back by Stalin murdering nearly their whole officer corps just before tree festivities. You seem to think it was all weather and American supplies. A lot of the opinions commonly held came straight outta Goebels propaganda, meant to explain the failure of the master race.
They created the narrative that even German superiority could not deal with a giant rabble of humanity.
But the truth is, like our military, by 43, the Red army was a very different animal from what it had been in early 41. And as w both got better, the krauts got less skilled.


50 posted on 06/08/2019 10:56:50 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: DesertRhino

Just bringing the American aspect over and dealing with it separately from the Russian winter aspect, why would Goebbels ever say that the greatness of American arms, know-how, the lend-lease agreement and so on if it was not true and he was the source of that argument?

As for me, I just don’t see those commies getting by, much less succeeding, without the Americans and the Russian winter.


53 posted on 06/08/2019 11:53:58 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: DesertRhino

I do not think antone here has said it was the weather and the Americans and that the Red Army was not crucial to defeating Germany. My posts at least were in response to the Russian myth thar Allied efforts were of little consequence to defeating Hitler. My personal belief is that had Britain been defeated in 1940 there is little likelihood that Russia could have defeated Germany alone.


55 posted on 06/08/2019 6:36:01 PM PDT by xkaydet65
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