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To: Snowybear
"There’s a line between Q and outright conspiracy douche."

What the heck, Snowy?

Maintaining a list for future reference, and possible future dot connecting, isn't a bad idea.

And did you call me a 'douche'?

691 posted on 06/10/2019 9:02:29 AM PDT by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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To: KitJ

No, sorry about that post it wasn’t directed at you.

Too much conspiracy mongering in regards to these death lists. And nobody will ever know the answer.

-SB


723 posted on 06/10/2019 11:28:25 AM PDT by Snowybear
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To: AllAmericanGirl44; jacquej; LucyT; glock rocks; Cats Pajamas; Calm_Cool_and_Elected; lighthouse; ...

NXIVM Update

What is NXIVM (pronounced nek-see-um)? NXIVM was started in 1998 in the upstate NY area by disgraced multi-level-marketer Keith Raniere and bills itself as an organization for personal development that trains people in "human empowerment". In March 2018, Raniere and five of his top inner-circle were indicted by Federal authorities on a variety of charges related to racketeering, conspiracy, money-laundering, sex offenses, human trafficking, and more. The five other women have all pleaded out around April, leaving Raniere as the only person at the jury trial that started on May 7th. Raniere and his top lieutenants have long, deep ties to many NY politicians including Clinton, Gillibrand, Cuomo, and others. The news media is barely reporting this story for obvious reasons. Previous NXIVM updates can be found on my homepage Here.


Nicole's World...

Nicole continued testifying all day Friday. The last update brought us to the afternoon, so we'll pick up there. She was having deep reservations about being in DOS, and had no interest sexually in Raniere. When she started making rumblings about not being happy, Raniere threatened to release her collateral. Previously, she testified to the same threat made by her slave-master, Allison Mack, but this was directly from Keith. He argued that he wouldn't have a choice, that it was part of the "code". Nicole also testified about her disturbing relationship with Mack. Little Allison is a real piece of garbage. [WARNING: graphic language and sexual descriptions at link]. Nicole also testified about Raniere assigning her to spy on another NXIVM member, Robbie. Dani's relationship with Robbie was what precipitated Raniere and Lauren Salzman to lock her in a room for almost two years. Robbie's parent were/are NXIVM members but clearly, jealous and petty little Vanguard Raniere was still on the outs with him. Nicole testified about her relationships with others in Allison's "slave pod" including Michelle Hatchett (still DOS), India Oxenberg (left DOS), and Jaye (left DOS). India is Catherine Oxenberg's daughter, and when Jaye left DOS she told Catherine about how she needed to get India out which eventually happened. The reason this background is important is because seeing others leave gave Nicole the strength needed to leave herself. Hatchett is allegedly still in DOS and still trying to recruit new slaves for Raniere while he is in prison.


Nicole's Departure...

Nicole finally left DOS around 2017, before all the arrests. But not before she got the Raniere brand below her bikini line. She testified about being branded and leaving the cult. Ultimately, Raniere did not release her collateral but some or all have almost certainly been entered into evidence for the trial. Nicole is expected to start cross-examination today, followed by the next witness for the prosecution. Some believe next will be Jaye, a slave of India Oxenberg.


Schadenfreude Break...

In a fit of vindictive enjoyment, I decided to post this article on Raniere's ongoing experience at the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn. He is ridiculed by guards that have to transport him everyday to court and back. He is subjected to body cavity strip searches every time he leaves and returns to the jail. And faces two scoops of not-nice from fellow inmates who apparently haven't been convinced of his superiority.


Day 19 Recap...

Today is day 20 of the trial. Information from today will be forthcoming. Friday was Day 19. The prosecutors believe they'll wrap up sometime next week, or early the last week of June. The end of the trial though is totally dependent on whether the defense will present a case. At the beginning of the trial, Marc Agnifilo said he would not be calling any witnesses and Raniere wouldn't take the stand. He can change his mind after the prosecution rests. The ball will be in his court, no pun intended. The government's strategy so far has been to provide some background (witnesses Herbits and Vicente), some expert testimony (Dr. Dawn Hughes, FBI Special Agent Rees), and a number of former slaves (Lauren Salzman, Sylvie Lloyd, Dani, Nicole). On a number of levels, the prosecution has established that Raniere was the leader of a criminal enterprise. We suspect they'll wind up their case with evidence of financial crimes only because that hasn't really been addressed yet. No telling whether Agnifilo will decide to present a case for the defense. His strategy thus far has simply been to try and impeach the witnesses and paint them in the juror's minds as just as bad as Raniere. We don't imagine that's working very well. Agnifilo's cross-examinations have been tepid at best. We've said it before, it makes one wonder if his heart is really in this?


+++ NXIVM Ping List +++
Ask me to be added or dropped

735 posted on 06/10/2019 12:10:32 PM PDT by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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