>> Americans do not want their former Presidents subjected to prosecution
Respectfully sort of disagree.
In some sense, that’s true. Nixon is a good example. Despite everything, I think his enemies were mostly satisfied just to get rid of him. Hounding him out of office was their victory.
But think about this: Look at the intense hostility toward Trump. Do you think for ONE SECOND that the left would not leap at the chance of prosecuting him? Their hatred of him is white hot and beyond all bounds of reason. For many, if they could publicly hang him and televise it on CNN/MSNBC that would still not be enough. And for what? The “crime” of beating their “beloved” HRC in an election. Because that’s what it really is. If he had not won against HRC, no one would have the slightest interest in his tax returns, his love life (Stormy) or anything else. They would be happy to have him still on a reality show providing entertainment.
What I’ve learned over the years is that the rabid left is not like us. They don’t play by the same rules in any sphere. Not in politics, not the way they think, not in the legal system, ...
IMO, 0vomit could have gone the route of Nixon and avoided prosecution if there had been a similar outcome. If he had been forced to resign over Fast and Furious or something else, many of us would have felt some satisfaction that justice had prevailed. If we learned while he was still in office that he was not a US citizen (much less natural born) there may have been a demand for something more than him just “fading away”. But 0vomit and his minions closed off the option of no prosecution when they piled on lie after lie and scandal after scandal.
IMO, BJC *MIGHT* get away with his crimes because he’s a former President. But not 0vomit. If it is shown that on top of everything else he was not even eligible for the office, I don’t think he will be looked at as a “former President”. I think he will be looked at as a foreign invader, as a scammer, as an abuser of all of us. People don’t like being duped or ripped off. People don’t like being played for fools. If/when this all comes out, there are going to be many reactions, but my guess is that 2 of the strongest will be:
1. Denial. Because many on the left will not be able to wrap their heads around finding out that their hero was a complete fraud. Think of the many times when you’ve seen this happen. People in denial about their cheating spouse or their drug addicted brother or their not-quite-bright kid or the “wonderful” employee that they hired who turns out to be a dud.
2. Anger. Those who aren’t in denial will be angry at being played for a fool. They’ll want vindication or revenge of some sort. You might be surprised that there will be plenty on the left who are just as angry as the rest of us. Maybe more so. Nearly all of us here have known from the git-go that 0vomit was a fraud. But when the true believers find that their idol is not made of gold but of clay, many will be livid. Think about Hollywood stars or rock stars. People idolize them and make excuses for their bad behavior. But when the facade comes crashing down, they turn on them. One day the public attitude can be slavish adoration hanging on every word written about or photo taken of the idol. The next day the erstwhile fans are eager for ever juicy tidbit of dirt or gossip. If there’s one thing that the masses like better than building up idols, it’s tearing them down.
Speaking for myself, I want to see justice. Not revenge (although I harbor those feelings at times), but justice. I want a trial. I want a FAIR sentence. Not a slap on the wrist, and not vengeful. Fair. A sentence commensurate with the crimes committed. And that goes not just for 0vomit but for ALL those who knew and helped perpetrate the fraud. I’m looking at you, Nancy Pelosi, for signing the document swearing that he was eligible. I’m looking at all the newsreaders who propped him up and knowingly lied to us for all these years. All the politicians who knew (which includes many on the right) and did nothing to stop this fraud.
They’re all going to claim they didn’t know. All the FBI and DoJ people will be claiming that the papers presented them re the Steele dossier were all in order and it was someone down the chain of command who signed off and passed it on, probably Peter Stroke. Pelosi will claim she never knew he wasn’t valid and his papers appeared in order, then she’ll blame staff. Will it work?
Re: prosecuting former “presidents”
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Don’t have time to post coherent “agreeing with you” post, but...
I do agree.
One Mom thought however,
if citizens, democrats, former high level officials, those in spot light who we and the anons know have broken the law...if they are not uniformly prosecuted for their crimes (as determined by the appropriate Law Enforcement agency) and accorded the proper punishment/consequence,
what does that teach our citizens, our children and the watching world?
That the privileged few (and apparently illegal immigrants as well) are above the law.
I cannot abide the thought of living any further in a country whose governing officials allow this travesty of justice.
So I am trusting that Q and Q+ have this, assisting by the magnificent Bill Barr and (fingers crossed) more Patriots than we can identify.
#QWeWantPain