Dani’s story is incredible. Her parents got her in the cult at 16, and handed her over to Raniere. She was 18 when Raniere began sexual relations, and (I think) 21 when she got two years of solitary confinement.
And this is just ONE person whose life was almost or partially ruined by Raniere. He stole her youth. He ruined many others.
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couple questions:
1. since there seems to be several “families” where parent and daughters are both initiatied into the cult, what is the attraction for a parent to be willing to “hand over” their child to raniere?
2. Since Sen Gillebrand’s father & step mother are members, do you suppose pappy has offerd up his daughter to Raniere’s cult?
let me know what you think.
Yeah, and Keith probably said; "Ewww, no".
2. Since Sen Gillebrand’s father & step mother are members, do you suppose pappy has offerd up his daughter to Raniere’s cult?"
I think the answer to the first is manipulation by Raniere. In the case of Dani, her parents originally got involved in the Salinas/Bettencourt end of the NXIVM operation in Mexico. Eventually they moved up to the Albany area to be near Keith. To them, the cult was an empowerment training event to improve the human condition. They didn't know until much later that Raniere was having sex with all three of their daughters. Raniere is an expert sex-psychopath groomer. And once he had his victims' "collateral" they were pretty much powerless to resist. As for Nancy Salzman, who brought her two daughters to Keith, she was witting to his ways and I can't comprehend any parent doing what she did.
The Gillibrand case is tough to discern exactly what happened. I wish their relationship with NXIVM would be a coup de grace to her political career but known facts don't support that. Her step-mother was the first in. She brought Kirsten's father in, who wasn't very impressed with the program. Before he left, Raniere had hired him as a consultant for just a few months. There is no known evidence that he or her step-mom ever got deeply involved in nefarious activities. Kirsten Gillibrand took money from Clare and Sara Bronfman just like any politician takes money from other rich people willing to donate. I believe Gillibrand took at least one NXIVM course but, again, that doesn't mean she knew of the cult's criminal activities.
Reasonable Man Theory would indicate that anyone around the Albany area for the past twenty years knew of the cult and their shady activities, but the burden of proof is tough to establish.
Just my take. Make sense?