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To: Iscool; Mrs. Don-o
We have it all, in the scriptures...Scripture Alone...And we have it all before the first Catholic Church Father or Doctor ever showed up...

Wow - too bad for all those early Christians, especially those who were martyred before the “Scripture Alone” was written and compiled, those who were unable to read or who could not afford a scarce handwritten document. Guess it was just bad timing for them, huh?

449 posted on 06/02/2019 10:42:14 PM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: Shethink13; Iscool; Mrs. Don-o
We have it all, in the scriptures...Scripture Alone...And we have it all before the first Catholic Church Father or Doctor ever showed up...

Wow - too bad for all those early Christians, especially those who were martyred before the “Scripture Alone” was written and compiled, those who were unable to read or who could not afford a scarce handwritten document. Guess it was just bad timing for them, huh?

Of course you are being facetious here for effect, but do you understand that the Scriptures are the WRITTEN form of Almighty God's revealed truth? Whether or not someone could read or have a personal copy of the Scriptures that were in the process of being written and compiled, the truth didn't change....it never does. The same verbal teachings that were first preached by Jesus as well as the further revelation the Apostles and disciples were given once Christ ascended to heaven have been recorded and preserved and passed down to us today. God's word will never pass away.

    So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. (Romans 10:17)

    And we continually thank God that in receiving the word of God from us, you did not accept it as the word of men, but as the true word of God--the word now at work in you who believe. (I Thessalonians 2:13)

The Scriptures have authority because they are the very words of God. Holy men of God spoke as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit - they didn't write from their own imaginings or interpretation. By writing these words down, the Holy Spirit ensured that all may know what God wants us to know and believe for all time. If someone hears the gospel and believes or another reads the gospel and believes it is the SAME word of God. No human organization could be in authority over God's word but all are to be in submission to the word of God and what it teaches. This truth has been acknowledged and taught from the start of Christianity.

451 posted on 06/03/2019 12:26:36 AM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: Shethink13

“Wow - too bad for all those early Christians, especially those who were martyred before the “Scripture Alone” was written and compiled, those who were unable to read or who could not afford a scarce handwritten document. Guess it was just bad timing for them, huh?”

2/3 of Scripture was written and circulated before Christ was born.

The NT Scriptures were written, widely shared among the early churches, and preached.

You did not need to own Scripture to hear it and come to saving faith.

Most people with ears can hear, but not all.


463 posted on 06/03/2019 4:45:00 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Shethink13
Good try; but thew CONTENT of what those early Christians believed was EXACTLY the same that would later be recorded on parchment.


I think I read that in a Book somewhere...



472 posted on 06/03/2019 5:00:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Shethink13
Wow - too bad for all those early Christians, especially those who were martyred before the “Scripture Alone” was written and compiled, those who were unable to read or who could not afford a scarce handwritten document. Guess it was just bad timing for them, huh?

Acts 17:2-3 And Paul went in, as was his custom, and on three Sabbath days he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and proving that it was necessary for the Christ to suffer and to rise from the dead, and saying, “This Jesus, whom I proclaim to you, is the Christ.”

Acts 17:11 Now these Jews were more noble than those in Thessalonica; they received the word with all eagerness, examining the Scriptures daily to see if these things were so.

Having a copy of Scripture and being able to read it are not necessary to be saved.

That's why God gave the church preachers, teachers, and evangelists, that they might go about and share the word.

Romans 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ.

And verbal proclamation of Scripture is NOT *tradition*, no matter how much Catholics want to twist the meaning of that word.

476 posted on 06/03/2019 5:33:35 AM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Shethink13

Oh PLEASE.

You have to be able to come up with a better argument than THAT, especially after we defined what sola scriptura REALLY means upthread.


480 posted on 06/03/2019 6:23:30 AM PDT by Luircin
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