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To: ealgeone; Mrs. Don-o
I found your discussion on cross vs crucifix interesting. Personally, I have zero faith in rituals, paintings or symbols - in and of themselves. However, the story they convey is another matter altogether.

Unlike Catholics, Orthodox and other branches of Christianity that teach certain graces are gained by wearing a blessed this or that - I would disagree. The gospel, the NT, tells us that grace comes through our faith in Christ - period.

Now concerning the cross and crucifix. The crucifix is a beautiful image in that it reminds me of the price paid for my salvation. It tells me that my sins and my sickness were put on His body and that while I was yet a sinner, Christ died for me. The story the crucifix tells is a focal point of Christianity.

BTW - Catholics do wear crossed and Catholics do celebrate Easter. It would be unfair to suggest otherwise!

I may be wrong but I believe Protestants reject using a crucifix because it is primarily a symbol used by Catholics.

God forbid Protestants and Catholics agree on anything /s.

195 posted on 05/31/2019 10:14:00 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord
Thank you for a thoughtful reality-based response. Respectful and refreshing!

As for your point #2, about blessed objects, we (by this use of "we" I mean Catholics and Orthodox) believe that believe that grace comes through faith in Christ. So we have that in common with you as well.

This does not deny that Jesus has the authority to exercise His power through people and things. For instance, there's this:

Acts 19:12
"Even handkerchiefs and aprons that had touched him [Paul] were taken to the sick, and their illnesses were cured and the evil spirits left them.

I am sure you would understand that they had faith in Christ, not faith in Paul apart from Christ, and certainly not faith in aprons.
197 posted on 05/31/2019 10:30:34 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you: to act justly, to love tenderly, and to walk humbly with your God)
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To: JesusIsLord
Unlike Catholics, Orthodox and other branches of Christianity that teach certain graces are gained by wearing a blessed this or that - I would disagree. The gospel, the NT, tells us that grace comes through our faith in Christ - period.

On this you are correct.

It is our faith in Christ that saves us.

I may be wrong but I believe Protestants reject using a crucifix because it is primarily a symbol used by Catholics.

Again, it comes down to how do you view Christ.

Is He still being sacrificed on the cross or is He off the cross?

198 posted on 05/31/2019 10:31:19 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: JesusIsLord
The gospel, the NT, tells us that grace comes through our faith in Christ - period.

There's the problem.

Tradition tells us otherwise.

And Rome is full of traditions.

284 posted on 06/02/2019 4:09:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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