Posted on 05/20/2019 1:52:00 PM PDT by Perseverando
Cervantes served on board one of the Spanish ships and was wounded. He sometimes referred to himself as “el manco de Lepanto”.
I didn't realize that the victors at Lepanto were the same 'Spanish Armada" that attacked the Netherlands and England, and was eventually defeated.
Tremendous history. Thanks for posting. BUMP!
I hate when people sink my invincible stuff.
I certainly wasn’t expecting that.
The Armada was “defeated” mostly by a violent storm that swamped its ships, and by Philip’s choice of an inexperienced officer to command the expedition. England’s victory was not the result of superior naval tactics, like those it employed centuries later at Trafalgar, but by a series of blunders on the part of the Spanish, coupled with plain good fortune.
The weather was against them. I wonder who is in charge of that.
Should have given the command of the Armada to Don Juan-he would have focused on sinking the smaller British fleet rather than just transporting the Duke of Palmas Army. The weather got them and poor leadership (it always does) sank the Armada—not Tudor England’s guns.
Don't let him get to ya, it's just what he does.
We know who is in charge and we know that Obama was not helping.
“the same ‘Spanish Armada” that attacked the Netherlands and England, and was eventually defeated.’
The weather was against them. I wonder who is in charge of that.
No the ships were entirely different.
Lepanto was fought between fleets of oared galleys, with auxiliary masts and sails.
The Armada campaign was fought between fleets of sailing ships, although the Spanish brought a few oared warships up from the Med. These didn’t fare well in the choppier waters off the west coast of Europe. The English Channel can be plenty choppy, and don’t even get me started on the North Sea and the Bay of Biscay.
Generally, the Spanish fleet did well as long as they kept to their natural habitat in the Med.
Against the English — a seafaring race as they never tire of reminding us — they fared poorly, but not as poorly as some of the propaganda of the time might suggest. The 1588 campaign was a disaster for the Spanish, but the Spaniards subsequently rebuffed various English aggressions against their commerce.
Unlike the Napoleonic period, England never enjoyed maritime dominance during the Elizabethan period. Power, certainly, but it was a closely contested fight all the way.
*ping*
Nothing like a flaming Spanish Galleon
IronJack is right; mostly weather.
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Thanks fieldmarshaldj. There's been a great deal of recent revisionism about the English victory over the Spanish Armada. Drake had experienced the Spanish use of fire ships during his own raid on Spanish ports in 1587, and filed that information away. The use of fire ships by the English navy was indeed his suggestion.
Thanks TN.
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