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Boeing 737 MAX 5 Unanswered Questions
Washington Post ^ | 4/24/2019 | Douglas MacMillan and Aaron Gregg

Posted on 04/25/2019 6:17:41 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?

Boeing’s first earnings report since two deadly crashes of its 737 Max jets showed that a worldwide grounding of the company’s flagship jet is taking a toll on its business. But it left unanswered many key questions about the crisis.

The aerospace giant said Wednesday that its first-quarter earnings fell 10 percent to $3.75 per share in the first quarter, and its profit slid 13 percent to $2.1 billion. Sales fell 2 percent to $22.9 billion.

The dismal results were a preview of what’s likely to be a long year of setbacks for Boeing, as unsold jets pile up at its production facilities and the company seeks regulator approvals that would allow its planes to fly again. Boeing declined to say how long it expects that approval process to take.

The souring picture for Boeing’s business shows how quickly the company’s fortunes have reversed since two deadly crashes of the 737 jet in Indonesia and Ethiopia killed 346 people. Boeing has long been prized by investors as a cash-producing machine with huge growth potential; Boeing has outperformed Wall Street earnings estimates for 11 straight quarters.

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TOPICS: Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: 737max; aviation; boeing; business
How soon will the 737 Max fly again?

Will the crisis have a lasting impact on Boeing’s business?

What role did Boeing play in the causes of the two crashes?

Asked about what led to the safety flaws in the 737 Max, Muilenburg said Boeing didn’t make any mistakes in its design of the planes. “There was no surprise or gap or unknown here or something that somehow slipped through the certification,” Muilenburg said. “We know exactly how the airplane was designed, and we know exactly how the airplane was certified.” (Fuel for the 3rd world pilot error crowd)

Will Boeing make any changes to the way it produces or certifies new planes?

How much will Boeing owe to airlines and the families of victims?

1 posted on 04/25/2019 6:17:41 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
First world or third world pilots, when was the last time a newly updated/designed plane fell out to the sky, minutes after takeoff, twice in less then a year's time?

I'd never fly on one, no matter the assurance from Boeing.

2 posted on 04/25/2019 6:31:08 AM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

The problem here is deep. It would appear from reports that the 737 MAX is not properly balanced, and the software was not a optional extra to make a good plane better, but an essential and very complicated fix to a very basic balance issue.

If this was just a an optional extra computer program, they would have had an override switch on it in the first place, and even if they didn’t they would have added one after the first crash.

If it’s a basic balance issue, these planes will never fly again.


3 posted on 04/25/2019 6:35:15 AM PDT by edwinland
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

There is demand for an efficient regional platform. The 737 is the proven and dominant model for that. It may take up to 24 months for the courts and the company and the public memory to work through this, but they will bounce back.


4 posted on 04/25/2019 6:41:03 AM PDT by lurk
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To: edwinland

It’s not a balance problem. I believe the planes are safe without the friggin balky software. Read up: There IS an override, but the added controversy is regarding the training and informing the pilots that a system may override manual control.

It’s all about the engines and the belief by engineers that pilots cannot compensate for different aerodynamic issues related to the new, higher-mounted engines which cause the nose to raise under full thrust (such as when climbing out).

People are outraged that they believe Boeing built an unsafe plane; I’m not outraged, but rather disappointed that I cannot entrust flight to a trained & experienced pilot.

I’ll never fly commercial again for a multitude of reasons, including the refusal to compromise my rights.


5 posted on 04/25/2019 6:51:08 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: edwinland
“If it’s a basic balance issue, these planes will never fly again.”

If it does fly again, it will not be with me on board if I can help it. IMO, and I am not an engineer, the plane was rushed along to compete with something out of Europe. It was to be more economical to fly with larger engine thrust and a slightly larger seating component all using the same basic plane design, the 737 airframe. Getting it out the door became paramount to ensuring everything worked as envisioned. They may be able to overcome the design problems but flying in a Gerry rigged plane is not on my agenda.

6 posted on 04/25/2019 6:55:55 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

Pull the LEAP engines. Thats the problem.
However there was other mods to accommodate the so called green engine, longer landing gear for instance.

I am beginning to think the whole project is going to be recalled.


7 posted on 04/25/2019 7:20:39 AM PDT by Daniel Ramsey (Thank YOU President Trump, finally we can do what America does best, to be the best)
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To: CaptainK
Most people don't know what aircraft model or manufacturer they book for their next flight. I will from now on.

As disturbing as this single sensor sabotage death trap on the MAX there's reports of the 787 Dreamliner found debris dangerously close to wiring

And the same with the KC-46 More debris in KC-46

These are signs of deep seated problems within the culture of the company. Multiple levels of people who do not do their job or do not care, reflects on management. IMO

8 posted on 04/25/2019 7:38:42 AM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: logi_cal869

I submit the real issue is pilot training. Once, every pilot was trained on stall recoveries. No longer. Now, many airline pilots are trained as FMS managers and no longer go through stall recognition and recovery. Very sad.


9 posted on 04/25/2019 7:42:56 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

I always check my plane when I book a flight.


10 posted on 04/25/2019 7:48:29 AM PDT by CaptainK ('No collusion, no obstruction, he's a leaker')
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

The 737 MAX should never fly again. It needs to be renamed so that hotshot pilots who know the 737 don’t automatically think they know how to fly the MAX. That is what got them into trouble on those two crashes.


11 posted on 04/25/2019 8:58:51 AM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: jimmygrace

For the software fix label a BIG button to say Override.


12 posted on 04/25/2019 10:14:48 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
Juan Brown(BlancoLirio)

Best 737MAX info on the interwebs

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13 posted on 04/25/2019 10:35:16 AM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: pabianice

Agreed, but Boeing’s approach to this was self-inflicted pain.


14 posted on 04/25/2019 12:43:03 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: infool7
Yep Juan does very well explain all this from a 777 pilot's perspective. Here is his most recent update
15 posted on 04/25/2019 12:56:30 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?
The link in my post 13 goes directly to Juan's playlist of all his videos related to the 737MAX crashes.

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16 posted on 04/25/2019 1:04:56 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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To: jimmygrace
I think you might just be right about the name.
I've said this before, I don't think the mistake was adding the bigger engines or the concept of the MCAS. Fly by wire has been the norm in military and commercial aircraft for a long time and it's safe and proven. What's not is Boeing hanging everyone's lives on a single little weathervane hanging off the nose with no thought of what would happen if it failed.

There is so much more information available to confirm the plane is about to stall, but they didn't even consider the pilot could simply look out the window.

17 posted on 04/25/2019 1:26:17 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: WhoisAlanGreenspan?

It just struck me:

This incident,

though tragic,

may be just the catalyst,

Boeing needs to purge all of the

bean counters and AA dingbats

responsible for ruining

a once great American company.

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18 posted on 04/26/2019 12:07:11 PM PDT by infool7 (Observe, Orient, Pray, Decide, Act!(it's an OOPDA loop))
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