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To: Califreak
“His sense of self is completely gone. They’re programming him.”


And this is really the heart of things. Most of us have looked into MK Ultra and it's variations. That was started back in the '50s! Almost 70 years ago. Imagine how much the concept has progressed?

I think a story like NXIVM lifts the tent flap to expose just a tiny slice of sordid corruption. I think Raniere was a wannabee mind-controller. He is an amateur, trying to be a professional. If a toad like Raniere can mentally entrap people like he did, imagine what a professional could do. Scary.

881 posted on 04/23/2019 10:26:18 AM PDT by KitJ (Shall not be infringed...)
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To: KitJ

Look at how well Jim Jones did with the Peoples Temple.


897 posted on 04/23/2019 11:55:33 AM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: KitJ
Most of us have looked into MK Ultra and it's variations. That was started back in the ‘50s! Almost 70 years ago. Imagine how much the concept has progressed?

Perhaps earlier than that...maybe ancient Egypt and/or Babylon with serial ritualized abuse...
907 posted on 04/23/2019 1:00:25 PM PDT by smileyface (Things looking up in RED PA! I love President Trump!)
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To: KitJ

A professional like L. Ron Hubbard or David Miscavige? I wonder if $cientology is a C_A op.


909 posted on 04/23/2019 1:26:10 PM PDT by ichabod1 (He's a vindictive SOB but he's *our* vindictive SOB.)
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To: KitJ

“If a toad like Raniere can mentally entrap people like he did, imagine what a professional could do”

Yeah, but I believe a lot of people who get trapped into these type deals already have weak minds to begin with.

They could have been born that way or have some sort of mental illness or psychological problem due to upbringing or trauma.... or just lacking in any kind of discernment...

I don’t believe normal people who can think for themselves would be caught up in anything like that.

I think people who get caught up in stuff like this are trying to be the cool kids or something, I don’t know.

It’s a shame.


919 posted on 04/23/2019 2:17:33 PM PDT by Califreak (If Obama had been treated like Trump the US would have been burnt down before Inauguration Day)
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